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lightfalling  (D License)

May 25, 2012, 12:18 PM
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Got a couple of quick ejectors on some tandem harnesses that don't spring back to automaticly close the quick ejector. I have been told that it is a common thing to happen and as long as it snaps shut it the quick ejector is still good. I tend to agree that it doesnt interfere with the actual function of the quick ejector when it is being used. Just looking for other peoples opinions/knowledge on the subject.

Is the quick ejector garbage because of a broken spring?

mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 25, 2012, 1:06 PM
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Are you sure you have quick ejectors or are they B-12 snaps?

Sparky
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lightfalling  (D License)

May 25, 2012, 1:29 PM
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I'm sure. They are on the side connectors of the tandem passenger harness

firemedic  (D 29776)

May 25, 2012, 1:56 PM
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Got a couple of quick ejectors on some tandem harnesses that don't spring back to automaticly close the quick ejector. I have been told that it is a common thing to happen and as long as it snaps shut it the quick ejector is still good. I tend to agree that it doesnt interfere with the actual function of the quick ejector when it is being used. Just looking for other peoples opinions/knowledge on the subject.

Is the quick ejector garbage because of a broken spring?

I recently refused to repack a PEP. The hardware for the leg straps and the chest strap were quick ejector and the return spring in all three of them were broken. Personally, I wouldn't use those harnesses. If a side connector were to come undone it could make a tandem jump go very badly. Replacing the side connection hardware on tandem harness is pretty easy anyway.

excaza  (B 37231)

May 25, 2012, 2:27 PM
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I have been told that it is a common thing to happen and as long as it snaps shut it the quick ejector is still good.
Technically? Most likely. But why take the chance?

riggerrob  (D 14840)

May 27, 2012, 7:09 AM
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Yes!

Fortunately, the adjustable QE Snaps (on tandem side straps) are comparatively easy to replace.

As for the fixed QE Snaps on pilot emergency parachutes ... the USAF developed a solution back during the 1960s. The USAF solution is a screw-in QE Snap. Just cut off the old QE Snap (hint: use the biggest set of bolt-cutters you can find). Sure the screw-in QE Snaps are expensive ($45 the last time I looked), but you would need a Master Rigger to spend at least that much time to sew in new (fixed) QE Snaps.

Rob Warner
FAA Master Rigger
Strong Tandem Examiner

firemedic  (D 29776)

May 27, 2012, 10:55 AM
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Is the quick ejector garbage because of a broken spring? ...
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Yes!

Fortunately, the adjustable QE Snaps (on tandem side straps) are comparatively easy to replace.

As for the fixed QE Snaps on pilot emergency parachutes ... the USAF developed a solution back during the 1960s. The USAF solution is a screw-in QE Snap. Just cut off the old QE Snap (hint: use the biggest set of bolt-cutters you can find). Sure the screw-in QE Snaps are expensive ($45 the last time I looked), but you would need a Master Rigger to spend at least that much time to sew in new (fixed) QE Snaps.

Rob Warner
FAA Master Rigger
Strong Tandem Examiner

I did think of the separable QE hardware but I let the owner make the call since he would have to contact a Master Rigger to make this repair.

riggerrob  (D 14840)

May 27, 2012, 6:31 PM
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I did think of the separable QE hardware but I let the owner make the call since he would have to contact a Master Rigger to make this repair.
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The other question is: "How often can you re-sew a piece of webbing before it must be discarded?"
Both UPT and Rigging Innovations say that you can sew a piece of webbing a maximum of three times before it must be replaced.
In the end, it costs about the same (whether you sew-in or sew-in new QE Snaps) but the webbing lasts longer if you screw-in.

mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 27, 2012, 6:34 PM
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($45 the last time I looked)

It's been awhile since you looked. Smile

Sparky


http://djassociates.thomasnet.com/...ed-snaps/68d37721-3?

firemedic  (D 29776)

May 28, 2012, 7:59 AM
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($45 the last time I looked)

It's been awhile since you looked. Smile

Sparky


http://djassociates.thomasnet.com/...ed-snaps/68d37721-3?

Thanks for the link Sparky. I do like options when shopping.


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