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gilead1  (D 26)

May 4, 2012, 1:52 AM
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Hi,

I just got my new Suunto Ambit - the new Suunto GPS watch.
It have an altimeter with a big display but like all other Suunto altimeter watches the altimeter refresh rate is once every second, which is too slow for free fall (the watch have a 200-500 feet dealay, compering with VISO)...
BUT - the watch frame ware get update one in a while, I believe it is possible to speed up the altimeter refresh rate so I emailed a request to Suunto software developers.
I think that they will not do it for one request but if they will get 200 requests.....
So please help us to get a real skydiving watch and send a request for faster refresh rate to:
ambit@suunto.com


Good luck :)
Gilead


gilead1  (D 26)

May 9, 2012, 4:53 AM
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Hi guys,
Short update: we do have a chance :)
I got reply from Suunto and they might do it,
All we need now is to build up a market,
I'm pretty sure that Suunto will do it if they will get enough requests to speed up the altimeter refresh rate.
So go ahead guys and send Suunto emails.

Here is my correspondence with SuuntoAmbit customize options

gilead izak
May 4 (5 days ago)

to ambit
Hello,
I do love my Ambit but is an improvements idea:

I would love to have an option to speed up the altimeter refresh rate so it will be more accurate on skydiving, I'm talking about every 1/10 of a second.

Thanks
Gilead

From: ambit@suunto.com
May 8 (1 day ago)

to me
Dear Gilead,

Thank you for your feedback! This will be taken into consideration when we plan the next software updates.

Regards,

The Suunto Ambit team
Quote:


(This post was edited by gilead1 on May 9, 2012, 4:59 AM)


Coreefdiver  (D 15287)

May 12, 2012, 8:00 AM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.


ParaHog

May 12, 2012, 7:59 PM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.

And then that produces additional problems.

For one, you have to remember to set it to fast-refresh mode. And if you forget to do that, then the altitude reading is lagging behind, and may cause incorrect higher-than-actual information.

Second, if you forget to turn fast-refresh back off after every jump to preserve the battery, then the battery might go dead on you in the middle of a skydive, giving you no altitude info at all.

Gee, I think I'll just stick with my old-fashioned mechanical altimeter that doesn't have any of these problems, and just always works, no matter what.


(This post was edited by ParaHog on May 12, 2012, 8:03 PM)


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 13, 2012, 8:53 PM
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If you want to know what time it is buy a watch.if you want to know how high you are buy an altimeter.

Sparky


Hellis

May 13, 2012, 10:49 PM
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Agree.

But I have a Suunto Core that I have made a few skydives with.
And having the Viso right next to it I could compare the altitude.
I did not notice much difference.

And..
Maybe it's just me but 2-500 feet isn't that much.
An analoge can easily "beat" that.
If it would be 2-500 feet off in canopy that would be bad.


DBlank  (D 32564)

May 14, 2012, 11:07 AM
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Agree.

But I have a Suunto Core that I have made a few skydives with.
And having the Viso right next to it I could compare the altitude.
I did not notice much difference.

And..
Maybe it's just me but 2-500 feet isn't that much.
An analoge can easily "beat" that.
If it would be 2-500 feet off in canopy that would be bad.

I would tend to agree, I use a Suunto Vector, works fine, I've had it next to analog ones before, just as good.


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 14, 2012, 3:35 PM
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I would tend to agree, I use a Suunto Vector, works fine, I've had it next to analog ones before, just as good.

Until its not just as good. Once again style trumps function. Wink

Sparky


gilead1  (D 26)

May 14, 2012, 4:08 PM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.
The bettery is rechargeable :)


JohnRich  (D License)

May 14, 2012, 4:40 PM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.
The bettery is rechargeable :)

Not on the airplane or in freefall.

It's not that the battery can go dead, but rather WHEN the battery can go dead.


gilead1  (D 26)

May 15, 2012, 12:10 AM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.
The bettery is rechargeable :)

Not on the airplane or in freefall.

It's not that the battery can go dead, but rather WHEN the battery can go dead.
It have a battery indicator :)
The watch is a GPS watch and for the time I charge it once after 2 weeks that included a lot of running with the GPS working...


Hellis

May 16, 2012, 1:09 AM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.
The bettery is rechargeable :)

Not on the airplane or in freefall.

It's not that the battery can go dead, but rather WHEN the battery can go dead.

Sure you can Tongue
http://www.treehugger.com/...al-wind-charger.html
Some stickytape and you can attach it to the helmet!


Laugh


stayhigh  (F 111)

May 18, 2012, 7:10 AM
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Vector works perfectly fine.

Except almost everytime when im in linetwist, it wil be on barometer or compase setting.




gilead1  (D 26)

May 19, 2012, 2:33 AM
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Vector works perfectly fine.

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Sure, as long as you don't want it to be accurate in free fall Tongue
Now seriously guys, if everyone will spend one minute to send a mail to Suunto, we might have a real altimeter watch,

Gilead


JohnRich  (D License)

May 20, 2012, 7:53 PM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.
The bettery is rechargeable :)

Not on the airplane or in freefall.

It's not that the battery can go dead, but rather WHEN the battery can go dead.
It have a battery indicator :)

Scenario:

On your previous jump with your gee-whiz altimeter watch the low battery indicator came on. You want to make one more jump before sunset. Do you:
1) Ignore the low battery warning and go ahead and make another jump hoping that the altimeter watch will still work properly, or;
2) Stand down and NOT make that last jump you wanted.

What is your decision?


dragon2  (D 101989)

May 21, 2012, 9:22 AM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.
The bettery is rechargeable :)

Not on the airplane or in freefall.

It's not that the battery can go dead, but rather WHEN the battery can go dead.
It have a battery indicator :)

Scenario:

On your previous jump with your gee-whiz altimeter watch the low battery indicator came on. You want to make one more jump before sunset. Do you:
1) Ignore the low battery warning and go ahead and make another jump hoping that the altimeter watch will still work properly, or;
2) Stand down and NOT make that last jump you wanted.

What is your decision?

Since I've seen a jumper go up for a nightjump with a low batt warning, I know the answer to that one Crazy

(3 seconds of freefall with an alti, the rest of your nightjump without, you're braver than me)


gilead1  (D 26)

May 22, 2012, 4:13 AM
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if they were to do this, I hope they would have it as a mode you could turn on/off.. battery life will probably be seriously effected leaving it on full-time.
The bettery is rechargeable :)

Not on the airplane or in freefall.

It's not that the battery can go dead, but rather WHEN the battery can go dead.
It have a battery indicator :)

Scenario:

On your previous jump with your gee-whiz altimeter watch the low battery indicator came on. You want to make one more jump before sunset. Do you:
1) Ignore the low battery warning and go ahead and make another jump hoping that the altimeter watch will still work properly, or;
2) Stand down and NOT make that last jump you wanted.

What is your decision?

Come on.... so you are against all digital altimeters...???
It is just like the VISO or NEPTUN from the battery aspect.
If you are stupid you will wait until the low battery warning is flashing and then you have to choose... be even more stupid and jump with it or miss a jump....
unlike the VISO, you do not need to replace the battery, if you see that the indicator shows less then 50% on Thursday - charge it and you are happy for the next 2 weeks.

P.S
my answer to your question:
I'm running to my gear bag and grab my old analog alti, never sold it Sly


JohnRich  (D License)

May 22, 2012, 1:06 PM
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Come on.... so you are against all digital altimeters...???
It is just like the VISO or NEPTUN from the battery aspect.

Nope, but there are aspects about them of which jumpers need to be aware. I'm just providing that warning so no one charges off and does something without thinking about it first. Informed and educated purchase decisions are better than purchases made simply because something is "cool".

Another example: a new jumper a few weeks ago noticed after take-off that their digital altimeter was not displaying altitude, but instead was on some kind of timer function, counting upwards in seconds: 1...2...3... and so on. They didn't know how to turn that function off and get it back to altitude.

Know thy gear - read the owner's manual, and play with all the functions on the ground, so that you know how to use it in the air!


(This post was edited by JohnRich on May 22, 2012, 1:09 PM)


PalleNygren  (E License)

Aug 15, 2012, 2:21 AM
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Can anyone that has a Suunto Ambit respond:

Is it possible to use the GPS and altimeter at the same time? My situation is that I would like to read the altitude and at the same time navigate towards a waypoint (or as Suunto calls it, a POI).


dragon2  (D 101989)

Aug 15, 2012, 8:57 AM
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I don't hink so. A colleague (not skydiving0 promised my I could jump his, but haven't yet due to the holidays.

A couple jumpers here jump garmin foretrex 401, this can do both at the same time (and more).


PalleNygren  (E License)

Aug 15, 2012, 11:30 PM
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Does anyone have a photo of what it looks like when the GPS and altimeter are shown at the same time?

Or for that matter, if anyone has a better suggestion for a combined GPS/altimeter. I'm using my Suunto Vector for altimeter today and having a GPS in my pocket for the not-so-good weather conditions. Prefer not to have two separate units considering information overload when doing handcam tandems.

/P


jinlee  (D License)

Aug 16, 2012, 12:19 AM
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Does anyone have a photo of what it looks like

Can't help you there I wear an x-lander Tongue


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dragon2  (D 101989)

Aug 16, 2012, 4:34 AM
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You can have multiple "screens" on the foretrex, see attached
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PalleNygren  (E License)

Aug 16, 2012, 5:28 AM
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Ok, but can one of them show directional arrow towards a waypoint and one of them the current height?


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