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frawley308  (D 9589)

May 3, 2012, 9:12 AM
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Does anyone know where I might find an old Pop Top belly reserve to use as a template to build a replica?
Thanks
Frank Rawley D-9589
Pensacola FL
850 292-1118


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

May 3, 2012, 11:57 AM
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Hi Frank,

1. Terry Urban has one but I cannot speak for him.

2. Find a really old SST/Racer & strip the container.

What you build will not be a TSO'd item. There are ways to get a one-time container approved but it is time-consuming.

JerryBaumchen


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Beatnik  (D 1051)

May 3, 2012, 6:00 PM
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I have both a Strong Pop-Top reserve and an SST Racer. How long would you need it for? I still actively use both of them.


PeteS  (D 8230)

May 3, 2012, 6:21 PM
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You can borrow mine, like we talked about.


riggerrob  (D 14840)

May 5, 2012, 9:12 PM
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Borrow a Strong Para-Cushion Seat-type pilot emergency parachute. 80 percent of the parts are the same.


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 8, 2012, 8:41 PM
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I have both a Strong Pop-Top reserve and an SST Racer. How long would you need it for? I still actively use both of them.

Who invented the Pop-top, Ted or John?

Sparky


3331  (D 3331)

May 9, 2012, 6:44 AM
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The Pop Top was invented by Dan Poynter (while working for Ted Strong) based on an Air Force back pack.

John Sherman bought the rights and adapted it to the SST/Racer.


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

May 9, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Hi Steve,

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based on an Air Force back pack.

If one ever sees and old Air Force B-5 rig you will see what Poynter developed into the PopTop. Two local guys back in the 60's made their own piggyback rigs with the reserve container based upon a B-5; they just canted the ripcord pins across the container diagonally.

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John Sherman bought the rights and adapted it to the SST/Racer.

I won't speak for John but the story 'back in the day' was that John only bought the rights for use as a piggyback rig; Ted would not sell the rights for the chest pack version. Or so the rumor mill had it.

JerryBaumchen


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 9, 2012, 11:58 AM
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The Pop Top was invented by Dan Poynter (while working for Ted Strong) based on an Air Force back pack.

John Sherman bought the rights and adapted it to the SST/Racer.

No more calls, we have a winner.

Sparky
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pchapman  (D 1014)

May 9, 2012, 6:39 PM
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If one ever sees and old Air Force B-5 rig you will see what Poynter developed into the PopTop.

You mean like this dude?
No idea who he is Wink, but someone should get the FAA on him for jumping over cloud.


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theonlyski  (D License)

May 15, 2012, 7:18 PM
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No idea who he is Wink, but someone should get the FAA on him for jumping over cloud.

Pretty sure there was an exclusion for military training exercises.


skybill  (D 6009)

May 15, 2012, 8:20 PM
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In reply to:
If one ever sees and old Air Force B-5 rig you will see what Poynter developed into the PopTop.

You mean like this dude?
No idea who he is Wink, but someone should get the FAA on him for jumping over cloud.
"
Hey Chappy!!

The photo......Joe Kittinger!!


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

May 15, 2012, 8:38 PM
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Hi Peter,

Yup, that is a B-5.

Quiz on Friday.

JerryBaumchen


Beatnik  (D 1051)

May 15, 2012, 8:42 PM
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Pretty sure there was an exclusion for military training exercises.

Not trying to harp on your comment. But military training rarely get exclusions for most things. The value of training doesn't supersede rules or safety. Operational requirements and missions can be sometimes left up to certain people's discretion. These operational do still have limits but for mission success can have a little more flexibility.

Plus I think you missed joke.


pchapman  (D 1014)

May 15, 2012, 9:01 PM
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I should have put more smileys on my post!


theonlyski  (D License)

May 15, 2012, 9:09 PM
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In reply to:
Pretty sure there was an exclusion for military training exercises.

Not trying to harp on your comment. But military training rarely get exclusions for most things. The value of training doesn't supersede rules or safety. Operational requirements and missions can be sometimes left up to certain people's discretion. These operational do still have limits but for mission success can have a little more flexibility.

Plus I think you missed joke.

I think you missed my joke.

Perhaps I should include the Tongue


Beatnik  (D 1051)

May 16, 2012, 7:51 AM
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I think you missed my joke.

Perhaps I should include the

There really wasn't a joke because it wasn't a training exercise and because of what I stated previously. It really didn't make any sense for those people that deal with stuff like this regularly. Which is what I was getting at. No matter how many or what emoticons you could have used, it still didn't make sense.


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 23, 2012, 3:51 PM
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In reply to:
Pretty sure there was an exclusion for military training exercises.

Not trying to harp on your comment. But military training rarely get exclusions for most things. The value of training doesn't supersede rules or safety. Operational requirements and missions can be sometimes left up to certain people's discretion. These operational do still have limits but for mission success can have a little more flexibility.

Plus I think you missed joke.

In the US military operations of any type are exempt from FAR's.

Sparky

Sections 105.5, 105.9, 105.13, 105.15, 105.17, 105.19 through 105.23, 105.25(a)(1) and 105.27 of this part do not apply to a parachute operation conducted by a member of an Armed Force


Beatnik  (D 1051)

May 24, 2012, 5:18 AM
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In the US military operations of any type are exempt from FAR's.

The same goes in Canada for operational requirements. Training has its own set of regulations that aren't regulated by the Transport Canada (Canada's FAA) but by the military itself. Which is what I was leading to and the limits I was talking about. I believe this is the same in the US military at least the people I have worked with from the US have said it is the same.



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