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Volo  (D 26171)

Sep 17, 2001, 6:55 AM
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What are YOUR thoughts on Icarus pumping out a number of various canopies on the market in such a short amount of time?

Are they safe and high quality, with sufficient test jumps made on them before putting them out on the market?



mountainman  (A License)

Sep 17, 2001, 7:04 AM
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You can check out their website and read some about what they do to test them and stuff. There is some interesting reading there.

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prost  (D 24959)

Sep 17, 2001, 10:21 AM
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Hmm First ever post and it is something like this. I wonder who Volo really is. Troll? ...but for whom?



skymedic  (C 33561)

Sep 17, 2001, 12:06 PM
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good point....Does seem like a trolls question....

Marc
Because I fly, I envy no man on earth


jaybird  (D 24977)

Sep 17, 2001, 12:24 PM
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this company is a safe company as are their canopies. i fly a crossfire and am getting ready to downsize, and thats right i will get another crossfire. people are getting scared because of ignorant speculation and rumors. this happens with everything, even the recent events in New York. the media jumped to conclusions many times, which proved to false. that is again what we are seeing here. please read the post on the crossfire also in this gear and rigging forum and you will get an idea of this untrue hype. thanks

jaybird



johnny1488  (D 25453)

Sep 17, 2001, 6:11 PM
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This is definetly some stunt from a canopy manufacturer {cough cough P.A. cough} I dont think PD would pull such a stunt. I have heard only good things about Icarus and am trying to get my hands on a Safire to test fly one before I buy.

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he doesnt even know where he's from in florida. hmmm



Premier SkymonkeyONE  (D 12501)

Sep 17, 2001, 6:32 PM
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What type of stunt do you think they might be pulling? I, as someone who has been around all the current manufacturing reps on the swoop circuit this year, can tell you that this isn't the first time I have heard of problems with both Icarus and P.A. Both for very different reasons, but troubles nonetheless.

Chuck



Aviatrr  (D 27349)

Sep 17, 2001, 8:03 PM
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In reply to:
What are YOUR thoughts on Icarus pumping out a number of various canopies on the market in such a short amount of time?
My first thought - after reading your profile - is that I can't give any credibility to somebody on issues pertaining to gear if they don't even know what size reserve they have..

Mike



geoff

Sep 18, 2001, 12:51 AM
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pumping out ...... in such a short amount of time
Yor choice of words suggests that you're more interested in influencing opinions than hearing them.



riggerrob  (D 14840)

Sep 19, 2001, 8:53 AM
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Volo,
What do you mean by "pumping out such a large number of canopies in such a short period of time."?

At the 1993 PIA Symposium, I was introduced to a parachute designer from New Zealand. His name was Gyro and he was starting to develop a reputation in his homeland as a builder of high performance canopies.
Since 1993, Gyro and the Icarus marketing department have introduced Icarus Extreme VX, Extreme FX, Omega, Safire, Crossfire, tandem and student canopy lines.

For comparison, during the same time period, Performance Designs has introduced the Stiletto, Spectre, Silhouette, Velocity, Vengeance, Navigator student canopy and a couple of tandem mains.

What is the difference?



Volo  (D 26171)

Sep 20, 2001, 7:13 AM
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Sorry if that question sounded a bit more on the negative side, but that wasn't my intention. I'm just curious to know other views and opinions about the issue. Oh, my name is Jason Jerusalem and I'm a freeflyer in Florida, since you asked.



skymedic  (C 33561)

Sep 22, 2001, 5:43 PM
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I think ya might have wanted to put who you were out in front with your question. but welcome to the neighborhood.

Marc
Because I fly, I envy no man on earth


remiandkaren  (C 2328)

Sep 23, 2001, 10:26 AM
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i think it is good to have more competition in the gear market.... remember when all there really was was PD? (yea... some real old timer will remember before that)...

That being said, all I ever had for main has been PD (except for a 75 jump excursion into Aerodyne Land)... there is something to be said about a long standing trusted name

Remi
Muff 914


skymedic  (C 33561)

Sep 23, 2001, 1:06 PM
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Plus PD's customer service ROCKS...

Marc
Because I fly, I envy no man on earth


Aviatrr  (D 27349)

Sep 23, 2001, 9:26 PM
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Plus PD's customer service ROCKS...
What exactly are you basing that on? I agree - they make good canopies...but ever tried to get a line set from 'em? Sometimes it takes 3 days, sometimes 6 weeks.. And don't get me started on their "used demo canopy" sales program..

Mike



skymedic  (C 33561)

Sep 23, 2001, 9:40 PM
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No, actualy I was talking about there demo program. got to jump a sabre 210 and a spectre 210 for 40 bucks...cant go wrong there....and I had em for two weeks....

Marc
Because I fly, I envy no man on earth


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Sep 23, 2001, 10:05 PM
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I snagged a Cobalt 150 shiped overnight to my work for 30 busks for 2 full weeks. The wait was 3 weeks from faxing the form to Atair. PD's list for a Vengence or Saber2 is over 6 weeks in some case up to 8 if you want a popular size.... like the 135 or 150 I wanted. So its all relitive......

Be safe, be smooth, be fast..... and most importantly.... be phree Smile


skymedic  (C 33561)

Sep 23, 2001, 11:14 PM
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I just walked into PD's factory said I wanted to demo a Sabre2 and a Spectre both 210's and they said sure...here they are...gave them my 40 bucks(20 bucks a peice) and jumpe the hell out of em....

Marc
Because I fly, I envy no man on earth


RemiAndKaren  (C 2328)

Sep 24, 2001, 12:59 AM
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Plus PD's customer service ROCKS...
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What exactly are you basing that on?
We've had really good experience with their CS too...

We bough a used Sabre 135 a few years back with only a handfull of jumps on it (10 to 20, cant remember now)but after a couple of months, we notice the centre cell top skin was looking "weird", as if it was aging very quickly. Also, the zp'ness of that pannel was going fast ( I could suck air through it).

We send it back to PD, and even if it was a 2 or 3 year old canopy, they exchanged it for a new one for a nominal charge (I think about $100)

Cant argue with that....


Remi
Muff 914


weid14  (D 20292)

Sep 24, 2001, 5:19 AM
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those wouldn't be on the most popular size list, that's why... I tried to get a 150 Stilletto - they said 6 weeks, they finally called be in Novemeber (I called them in July), by then my new canopy had come in... your milage may vary.



mountainman  (A License)

Sep 24, 2001, 5:23 AM
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and jumpe the hell out of em
Hey man! Did you do this recently?? Does this mean you have more jumps than me now?? Smile If so.....SWEET!!!

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DBTECH  (B 21186)

Sep 24, 2001, 2:33 PM
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Remi said

I think it is good to have more competition in the gear market.... remember when all there really was PD? (yea... some real old timer will remember before that)...

ParaFlite was the only one on the block before PD- and I'm not a "real" old timer!

Dave Brownell





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