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anj4de

Mar 17, 2012, 5:51 AM
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Hello all

Check this out please...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-U-S-MILITARY-ISSUED-PARACHUTE-WITH-UNCUT-LINES-/140724084588?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c3cf1f6c

It looks like someone made a lot of effort to create a Paracommander like parachute from a regular C-9 canopy. Was this done on an individual bases back then of was it a factory modification?

cheers
Uwe


pchapman  (D 1014)

Mar 17, 2012, 6:19 AM
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clicky
http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item20c3cf1f6c

Yeah, that it one super modified C-9!
I've heard a couple times on dz about people doing mods like that, but only as a personal rigging project.


ripcord4  (D 2238)

Mar 17, 2012, 11:58 AM
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I'd bet that canopy has the rate of descent of a Simonized bowling ball!


councilman24  (D 8631)

Mar 17, 2012, 4:00 PM
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Even has a pulled down apex. I've never seen a C9 cut up like that. Hard to believe the 80-120 cfm fabric will give anything near good performance. Anyone here ever jumped (or stayed on the ground and watchedAngelic) one of these things?


skybill  (D 6009)

Mar 17, 2012, 6:49 PM
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In reply to:
Hello all

Check this out please...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-U-S-MILITARY-ISSUED-PARACHUTE-WITH-UNCUT-LINES-/140724084588?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c3cf1f6c

It looks like someone made a lot of effort to create a Paracommander like parachute from a regular C-9 canopy. Was this done on an individual bases back then of was it a factory modification?

cheers
Uwe
Hi j4,
"Got Photos????" Back when, Ben Seal, Jr. at Hammond, La., Southland Skydivers, had a C-9 that he modified into a Paracommander complete with crown lines, pulled down vent and stabs. He took Leon Riche's P/C and copied the mods although he should have made the turn slots a hair bit bigger as the C-9 was 28' and the P/C 24'. Ben called it the "Sky Hook!!" I wrote about it elsewhere here on H & T. I put a bunch of jumps on it in the fall of '66 before I went into the Navy and Mike Marcon took it over after that till it got "retired." It flew like a slow PC, turns were acceptable , it had a better glide than a C-9 and definitely a softer landing!! Always stood it up with no trouble. Stan Spooner from the era had one he made also, saw him jump it at the old Cotton Belt Council meets. They're out there.


sprtdth  (D 4730)

Mar 17, 2012, 6:51 PM
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With the D rings on the risers, I'm thinkin' they tried making a para-sail type thing.
I tried that.....once.


anj4de

Mar 17, 2012, 11:34 PM
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Hi again

Here are some pictures....

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[IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/KGrHqZrkE88hDYchBPY2Y8iUQ60_57.jpg[/IMG]

cheers
Uwe


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Mar 18, 2012, 10:21 AM
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Hi Terry,

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I've never seen a C9 cut up like that.

I think that Jim Hooper did it also.

IIRC he even posted some photos of his canopy on here somewhere.

Jim, you out there?

JerryBaumchen


Krip  (Student)

Mar 18, 2012, 10:30 AM
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fifESmile


(This post was edited by Krip on Mar 18, 2012, 10:38 AM)


nndefense  (C 3917)

Mar 18, 2012, 1:31 PM
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I made a bunch of jumps on the "Sky Hook." It was also sprayed with silicone and emitted a little cloud of white silicone dust/smoke when it opened. It was slow and big but I had a lot of fun jumping it. Back then, I would jump anything that was packed and ready. That included T-10's, C-9's and anything I thought would open and wouldn't kill me. Wasn't particular until I got my first PC.

Mike Marcon


darkwing  (D 4164)

Mar 19, 2012, 5:39 AM
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Back in the 70's in my loft we had a pattern to make a c-9 into a parasail. The D-rings on this pretty much make it look like that is what this one is. Still, it is probably jumpable as a main. If you put steering lines on it.


goldwing  (D 5326)

Mar 23, 2012, 6:04 PM
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A couple other Navy PR's and I tried modified this canopy at NAS Kingsville, TX in 1969. Rate of descent tolerable, it sufficed until a real PC was purchased.
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councilman24  (D 8631)

Mar 24, 2012, 5:11 PM
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I like the heart shaped drive window in the back.


StevenSki  (C 7215)

Apr 10, 2012, 5:45 PM
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I put a hundred jumps on a cheap-o PC in Germany and Casa Grande. I ended up giving it away.

It had sloppy openings, but never malfunctioned. Its landing rate was a little better than a typical 28 ft. Actually, the drawndown apex expanded the chute's grab.

It sure had a lot of people shaking their heads. Lots of work for very little gain.


Premier likestojump  (D License)

Jun 11, 2012, 9:01 PM
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how about a ParaCommander clone from scratch ?

Someone did it and 40 years later sold it to me :)
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ripcord4  (D 2238)

Jun 20, 2012, 12:56 PM
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Looks like my old Church Window.



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