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Astra AAD - Out of Production?

 


Unstable  (D 28930)

Mar 8, 2012, 10:18 AM
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More out of curiosity than for any good reason, I've followed the Astra AAD for about 8 years now, although I've never owned one. Interesting AAD's ~ I've always wondered if they would have farred better had they come out later, but that is neither here nor there (Riggerrob has posted some excellent threads as to the pros and cons of the Astra, I'm sure a search will provide good information for those deciding if they are a viable alternative to a Cypres or Vigil.

However, I've also noticed that Paragear has pulled them from their catalog, and I'm not finding as many posted. Does anybody in 'the know' have information as to whether or not FXC has discontinued production or support of the Astra?


Premier Remster  (C License)

Mar 8, 2012, 10:20 AM
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They were still in production????

I've seen maybe 1 in the last several years....


mjosparky  (D 5476)

Mar 8, 2012, 8:53 PM
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They still list it on their web site.

Sparky

http://www.fxcguardian.com/2AutoSensingDevices.htm


Premier Remster  (C License)

Mar 9, 2012, 5:39 AM
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I saw that, but I also saw that they have not posted any info,service calls, tech service bulletins, or anything else since 97.


Unstable  (D 28930)

Mar 9, 2012, 9:24 AM
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I saw that, but I also saw that they have not posted any info,service calls, tech service bulletins, or anything else since 97.


Yeah, and their links labeled *new* are from 1998....Crazy


skydiverek  (C 952)

Mar 12, 2012, 5:07 AM
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A student died in the US in 2004 when his Astra did not fire. It was still in "Ready" status after he hit the ground at 120 mph. I think that was the beginning of end for Astra...


Premier likestojump  (D License)

Mar 12, 2012, 7:29 AM
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A student died in the US in 2004 when his Astra did not fire. It was still in "Ready" status after he hit the ground at 120 mph. I think that was the beginning of end for Astra...

Not to be repetitive, but the Astra DID NOT kill, nor did it contribute to his death...


skydiverek  (C 952)

Mar 12, 2012, 7:33 AM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
A student died in the US in 2004 when his Astra did not fire. It was still in "Ready" status after he hit the ground at 120 mph. I think that was the beginning of end for Astra...

Not to be repetitive, but the Astra DID NOT kill, nor did it contribute to his death...

Here we go again ;-)... I know that, you are responssible for your life, blah, blah, blah. I was just talking about Astra's relalibility.


pchapman  (D 1014)

Mar 12, 2012, 8:38 AM
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Any links to a report on that accident available? Some of us don't remember it.


skydiverek  (C 952)

Mar 12, 2012, 9:13 AM
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I could not find it online, but I recall is is in the spring issue of Parachutist magazine (2004 fatality summary), from year 2005. Fatality occured in the U.S. in year 2004.


(This post was edited by skydiverek on Mar 12, 2012, 9:14 AM)


Unstable  (D 28930)

Mar 12, 2012, 9:18 AM
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A student died in the US in 2004 when his Astra did not fire. It was still in "Ready" status after he hit the ground at 120 mph. I think that was the beginning of end for Astra...

RLY? Shocked Again, any links to the incident would be VERY interesting. WIthout getting into the philosophies of AAD reliability and Maintenance, stuff like

1. Calibration
2. Maintenance
3. Battery replacement & management
4. Correct Rigging

All play a part in a student hitting the ground at 120 mph. My guess is that there were a number of factors in play that allowed the AAD it's opportunity to fail.


skydiverek  (C 952)

Mar 12, 2012, 9:18 AM
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OK, I found it. Check fatality number 21 here:

http://www.skydivingfatalities.info/...US&CountryOp=%3D


(This post was edited by skydiverek on Mar 12, 2012, 9:19 AM)


skydiverek  (C 952)

Mar 12, 2012, 9:22 AM
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Dropzone.com discussion on the Astra accident here:

http://www.dropzone.com/..._latest_reply;so=ASC

http://www.dropzone.com/...es/Detailed/60.shtml


Unstable  (D 28930)

Mar 12, 2012, 1:09 PM
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I spent some good time digging through all those posts... Unfortunatly they all left more questions than answers. Unsure


skydiverek  (C 952)

Mar 12, 2012, 2:11 PM
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In reply to:
I spent some good time digging through all those posts... Unfortunatly they all left more questions than answers. Unsure

To all - this is probably the most informative, I think:

http://www.dropzone.com/...post=1338595#1338595



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