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Pilot 188 owners experience

 


abean3

Feb 24, 2012, 10:20 PM
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Hey guys,

I flew a pilot and really enjoyed the openings and glide ratio. I decided to order a pilot 188 for my new rig. I will be loading it at 1.38/1.

So what have all of you pilot owners thought about your experience with your canopy? I have seen old posts on here, but am really interested in those who have owned a pilot manufactured in the last few years. Any input about performance and experience (Likes, dislikes, tip, or advice) would be more than great!


Feeblemind  (D 28621)

Feb 25, 2012, 8:09 AM
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I have 900 jumps on pilots:

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Opens on heading (the majority of the time)
Opens soft (the majority of the time)
Nice glide ratio
Predictable response
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Deep flare point
very short recovery arch (make advancement in canopy training difficult, PM if interested;to long to state here)
Heavy riser pressure when doing front riser turns

All in all it's a great canopy for beginner - intermediate canopy pilots or camera flyers that want soft openings. I wanted more performance on landing so I moved to a different product. I loved my pilots (I owned a 210, 188, 168 and 150) it was just time to move on.

Note: between 400-500 jumps if you start having a lot of off heading openings and more positive openings have your rigger check the line set. My pilot's got annoyed with me if I kept lines on them to long.

Good Luck and enjoy your new gear,

Feeble


Premier NWFlyer  (D 29960)

Feb 25, 2012, 8:22 AM
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Note: between 400-500 jumps if you start having a lot of off heading openings and more positive openings have your rigger check the line set. My pilot's got annoyed with me if I kept lines on them to long.

Dropped my rig off with Tim for a repack when I still had my Pilot.

Me: While you're at it, can you look at my main lines and tell me if I need a reline?
Tim: How many jumps on the lines?
Me: About 500
Tim: Yeah, I'm not even going to bother with that. You need new lines. Laugh

I put about 300 jumps on a Pilot, and I've since switched to the Pulse (same size). The Pulse has similar flying characteristics, but a higher flare point, which I prefer. It also packs smaller, which made packing much easier.

I had a couple memorably-hard openings on the Pilot. Generally it's snively and soft but when it decides to get angry, it gets angry.


Joellercoaster  (D 105792)

Feb 26, 2012, 4:38 AM
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I had a couple memorably-hard openings on the Pilot. Generally it's snively and soft but when it decides to get angry, it gets angry.

I reckon you can say that about any canopy model, though I was interested in Dan BC's assertion that his (Dacron-lined?) Katana had/would never open hard. I guess careful packing plays a part too.

I've been thumped properly by one Pilot (168), and am certainly due a reline on my 132. I'd agree with all the points people have made above, pro and con - although the assertion that you can't learn to swoop on them is provably false, I'd say I struggle to swoop mine well with my extremely limited swooping ability! Plenty I can learn in the process of that struggle, though.

Utterly brilliant canopy, I am never selling this one: It'll get a Crossfire2 129 as a kid brother this year, but it's definitely staying.

(I saw my original 188 a little while ago, and had a wave of nostalgia for it. Good times.)


abean3

Feb 27, 2012, 8:30 PM
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Thanks for all the input guys!

I'm pretty pumped about the new canopy. I will be using it mostly for Wingsuiting and coaching for this year and hopefully AFF next year. I wanted a stable canopy and this seemed like the best option.



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