Forums: Dropzone.com: Security and Scam Alerts:
Important -- New Scam Tactics

 


Premier Meso
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Feb 21, 2012, 2:50 AM
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It seems that there has been an active effort by scammers to try get a better scamming conversion rate. Up until now they would typically use very generic writing in their original response and their replies, but it seems the replies have become a bit more developed and they are starting to sound as though they may actually be skydivers.

There have been several scammers of late who claim that their rigger will come and collect the gear for inspection after they have sent the cheque. And they have even referenced which dropzone they 'jump' at, and there was even one that managed to put forward a USPA license number (which belonged to someone else).

While they have managed to figure this out, their English remains fairly bad and that can still be used as a tell-tale sign. Look out for basic spelling and grammar problems that you wouldn't expect from an English speaking person, especially when the buyer claims to be from a primarily English speaking country.

It will remain good practice, especially in cases like these to call the dropzone that they reference and see if the DZO knows the 'jumper'. This is usually where their scams fall apart.

In short, it is no longer safe to assume that if a buyer gives you a license number and a DZ name that they are a legitimate buyer. If you suspect at all that they may be a scammer, follow up with the dropzone and make sure. Though these cheques that they send are almost always for a larger amount of money than the product and also remains a big alert that the buyer is a scammer.


skyrado  (D 29871)

Feb 19, 2013, 9:36 AM
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Very useful information! thank you!
Rado


totz

May 26, 2013, 6:14 PM
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 '144826'.
Hello! That is the Ad number of Daniel Feess May 18,2013 I sent him the amount $565.00 and emailed him 2 days ago to see if he already has received the Money Order but I did not received any reply and I checked the Ad from him and it says Error??? Cannot find the Ad anymore.....What is going on?Did I get Scammed???Unsure


totz

May 26, 2013, 6:48 PM
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I apologize! He just replied my email just now.... sorry! It has been 5 days of waiting and of course I've been worried.


Belmonte

Jul 3, 2013, 6:52 AM
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richardmorgan2312@hotmail.com
scam seller


Attackforce  (A License)

Jul 3, 2013, 1:28 PM
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Belmonte wrote:
richardmorgan2312@hotmail.com
scam seller

He goes by "Richard Morgan" on here with a paypal address of Donnalyons399@yahoo.com

Cell phone number is 9045676349. He'll claim he has hearing loss and can't talk hear you and that you should only text him. When trying to talk to him it's quite obvious he's not a "Richard Morgan" but definitely a foreigner claiming to be selling a rig located in Missouri yet that phone number is directed from Florida.

Don't be fooled.


198rock  (A 23258)

Nov 14, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Thanks for the info, Meso. 2 out of 8 inquiries on my rig are scams. Rock on.


jonathasnunes

Dec 19, 2013, 4:55 AM
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Ivan Braun (ivanxxbraun@gmail.com) is scam... how do i report this...


Doug_Davis  (B 40488)

Jan 4, 2014, 1:28 PM
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Meso,

Just curious as a new jumper and new forum member...what are the scammers hoping to accomplish? Are they trying to get peoples' bank information? Or email addresses or what?

I just dont get what they hope to accomplish with either fake ads or even stranger fake offers to buy.


Premier Meso
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Jan 5, 2014, 10:38 PM
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Hey,

Seller scammers are in it for the money directly, while buyers obviously have a few different agendas depending on the scammer. Some may actually hope to achieve being sent the gear, so they can then resell it. Since some of them pay via what seem like reliable avenues, and then only after a couple of days once the item has been sent, will the money payment be flagged as illegitimate and reversed.




Brianjudd07

Nov 1, 2014, 2:31 PM
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Has anyone heard anything about VetaVet skydiving gear? I sent the guy money western union and when it came time for a tracking number to my jumpsuit all I get are crickets. Has anyone ever successfully purchased something from them or did I get scanned?


Amyr  (C License)

Nov 6, 2014, 3:00 PM
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Brian Juddo, When you say all you got are crickets, are you talking about the tiny bugs, or is that slang for something else?


Dilligas

Nov 6, 2014, 8:26 PM
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Amyr wrote:
Brian Juddo, When you say all you got are crickets, are you talking about the tiny bugs, or is that slang for something else?

That's an expression that means he heard nothing in reply. Like sitting outside on a quiet night when all you can hear is the crickets chirping. He didn't actually get a box full of bugs. I hope!


hjortur  (D 40)

Dec 15, 2014, 1:56 PM
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Scammer buyer alert.

David brown davidbrown101@outlook.com

Thanks for your prompt response ,I was just about to book the pick up schedule with the pick up agent when i had a problem about their payment method. They are only accepting payment through Western union money transfer but i am currently on sea due to my status of work, soi want to add the pick up agent pick up fee to your item cost price credited to your Paypal account and the pick up fee is ($600.00) so i will be crediting the total amount of($2,492.00), the extra ($50.00) is for the Western union transfer fee for you to transfer the pick up agent fee through Money gram. Once i have these done and you have pick up agent fee sent to them, the pick up arrangement will be scheduled,just wanted to let you know before i proceed with the payment, please advice and i please advice and i will be looking forward to read from


userid  (D 9090)

Dec 16, 2014, 8:50 PM
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I'm getting vague bullshit-sounding email from davidbrown101 too, asking about buying a tandem rig I am selling.


Premier RoyBatty  (C License)

Dec 21, 2014, 5:45 PM
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Yeah this guys a scammer. Hit me up for my "Item". Exchanged a few emails. Dropped the thread when he said "don't worry about where I am located". AVOID davidbrown101@outlook.com


jrhaines

Dec 22, 2014, 8:06 AM
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davidbrown101@outlook.com is a scammer he was trying to scam my complete rig ad on 12-20-14. Stay away of this person.


Virginie

Dec 23, 2014, 2:46 AM
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Same for me. I have been contacted by this famous David Brown. Is there any risks if he has my Paypal email address and my physical address? Thanks for your reply
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Premier tellerd

Jan 16, 2015, 9:14 AM
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hjortur wrote:
"i am currently on sea due to my status of work, soi want to add the pick up agent pick up fee to your item cost price credited to your Paypal account"

Watch out for username jimmy35, jimmykoeman35@outlook.com, too. He's also unable to coomunicate via phone or Skype "because am presently working offshore". He's been fishing for my mailing address and PayPal information.


Premier tellerd

Jan 27, 2015, 1:41 PM
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Wow, why so many scammers now? I bought gear through DZ.com 18 months ago and had a great experience. Now, things have changed. In trying to buy gear last year, I encountered two scammers.

Now, I'm selling gear and have had tree scammers trying to phish info out of me. It's getting ridiculous. Maybe it's time to start a new, verified membership program. :(


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Jan 27, 2015, 10:31 PM
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It's definitely something that we've been exploring and while I'm unable to give you much more information, as we haven't yet started working on the concept - I imagine it's only a matter of time before we implement a way to make the classifieds much more secure. It would require a change in our software, so it would require some planning, but we have some ideas about how we'd go about it already.

Unfortunately without doing that, it's quite difficult for us to prevent these scammers. They are registering using proxies that hide their IPs and are constantly changing them while posting. So even though we catch and ban most of them the same day that they register, they just register more.


rustywardlow  (D 18809)

Feb 4, 2015, 1:30 PM
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Thanks for the update. Although scammers have been around for a while it is easy to pick them out. Remember the fake Post Office money orders a few years back. Currently I am trying to sell a Stiletto 107 and I am pretty sure I just picked up a scammer. So I will do what I did before. Lead them on. Get as much useful information as I can so that their scam can be exposed and the skydiving community can stay informed. Then scare the hell out of them in an attempt to discourage them. Which may or may not work. It worked for the money order scam.



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