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nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 19, 2012, 4:32 AM
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I'm curious at to why some jumpers don't seem bothered by Gopro's snag points. I've watched a couple of videos on youtube and you see their camera's on "huge" extensions.

http://www.sikharchives.com/...corliss_bat_suit.jpg

This pic of Jeb is a typical example, notice that he hasn't even bothered to replace the standard large gopro screw with a low profile screw.

Are these guys simply ignoring the dangers, am I missing something? I guess you could easily have it rigged so that it will simply snap off with a few pounds of force?


(This post was edited by nigel99 on Feb 19, 2012, 6:18 AM)


shropshire  (C License)

Feb 19, 2012, 4:53 AM
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Well he does have a cut-away helmet ... I s'poseUnimpressed


nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 19, 2012, 5:19 AM
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Well he does have a cut-away helmet ... I s'poseUnimpressed

It is very odd, I've seen it on a couple of base videos today. That and the idea of both front and rear facing go-pro's.

I don't have a clue about base, but I am surprised by it. I would have expected guys to be more concerned about snag points - not less.


shropshire  (C License)

Feb 19, 2012, 5:22 AM
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Well when your chances are drawn by seconds and parts of seconds .. it's the footage that countsTongue


diablopilot  (D License)

Feb 19, 2012, 5:35 AM
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I willing to bet they ARE concerned and for that reason have considered the following:

1) They have the experience to evaluate the risk vs. their skills.

2) They have selected equipment appropriate to mitigate the risk (i.e canopy sizes, deployment systems, and camera mounts that will break when necessary.)

(Side note: drives me nuts when I see people bolt a GoPro to a helmet.)

3) Have practiced the activity and specific methods WITHOUT the cameras in order to mitigate the risks.


(This post was edited by diablopilot on Feb 19, 2012, 9:04 AM)


nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 19, 2012, 6:27 AM
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I willing to bet they ARE concerned and for that reason have considered the following:

1) The have the experience to evaluate the risk vs. their skills.

2) The have selected equipment appropriate to mitigate the risk (i.e canopy sizes, deployment systems, and camera mounts that will break when necessary.)

(Side note: drives me nuts when I see people bolt a GoPro to a helmet.)

3) Have practiced the activity and specific methods WITHOUT the cameras in order to mitigate the risks.

I'm sure you are right. It just appeared contrary to what I've grown up with.

90% of me thinks they have the knowledge and experience to do the job right, but when I see a big old stock thumbscrew sticking out of the setup, it makes me go umm? Something that costs a few cents to replace with a normal low profile machine screw.


rehmwa  (D 12816)

Feb 19, 2012, 8:27 AM
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I willing to bet they ARE concerned and for that reason have considered the following:

I don't really know who "they" are. From the basejumpers that I know, I can say:

"they" consist of a percentage of people that do what you say. A small percentage, but definitely some

"they" consist of people that just don't think about it. Not because they are purposely careless, but they just don't think about those kinds of things. pretty big percentage. Seems like the first group is actively trying to recruit them over to a better view of the sport.

"they" consist of dumbasses that really don't care and just do it because their egos can't handle less and they are just plain idiots about the activity. another fairly large group - which seems to be growing

I'd prefer that first group to keep growing, personally. I like and respect those guys.


diablopilot  (D License)

Feb 19, 2012, 9:07 AM
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The nice thing about base for those of us that hold to machiavellian views is it's a sport that has a built in self correcting mode for stupidity and ignorance.Smile


jakee  (C License)

Feb 19, 2012, 9:50 AM
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Well he does have a cut-away helmet ... I s'poseUnimpressed

It is very odd, I've seen it on a couple of base videos today. That and the idea of both front and rear facing go-pro's.

I don't have a clue about base, but I am surprised by it. I would have expected guys to be more concerned about snag points - not less.

In wingsuit base jumping a camera mounted on your helmet is about as far away from the deploying canopy as you can get (apart from a chest mount). See if you can find any rear facing footage of a full flight base deployment. There were some great shots in one of Robi's movies, Fly The Line 2 I think, you can see the canopy deploying so far behind its brushing the trailing edge of the leg wing. Opens up a whole new can of worms in terms of ankle mounts (and I have seen people mounting GoPros on their right foot in WS basePirate) but the helmet mounted cameras aren't such a big deal.

(Of course sub-terminal is a whole different animal again)


nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 19, 2012, 2:48 PM
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Well he does have a cut-away helmet ... I s'poseUnimpressed

It is very odd, I've seen it on a couple of base videos today. That and the idea of both front and rear facing go-pro's.

I don't have a clue about base, but I am surprised by it. I would have expected guys to be more concerned about snag points - not less.

In wingsuit base jumping a camera mounted on your helmet is about as far away from the deploying canopy as you can get (apart from a chest mount). See if you can find any rear facing footage of a full flight base deployment. There were some great shots in one of Robi's movies, Fly The Line 2 I think, you can see the canopy deploying so far behind its brushing the trailing edge of the leg wing. Opens up a whole new can of worms in terms of ankle mounts (and I have seen people mounting GoPros on their right foot in WS basePirate) but the helmet mounted cameras aren't such a big deal.

(Of course sub-terminal is a whole different animal again)

Jakee that makes a lot of sense.


diablopilot  (D License)

Feb 20, 2012, 1:12 AM
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jakee, that whole theory of yours only works in a stable belly to earth deployment scenario. When the shit hits the fan, you might not be.....Cool


piisfish

Feb 20, 2012, 3:45 AM
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jakee, that whole theory of yours only works in a stable belly to earth deployment scenario. When the shit hits the fan, you might not be.....Cool
yeah yeah, like if wingsuiters would do double backflips or any other kinds of flippy-do's before pitching their PC Tongue


FrancoR

Feb 20, 2012, 8:46 AM
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Are these guys simply ignoring the dangers, am I missing something?

A lot of skydivers ignore the danger that you can simply die while skydiving, some chose to ingnore that stuff can get wraped up on stuff attached to helmets. Both have been proven to be wrong. People still do both for the benefit of doing it...
The more ignorant you are the more you benefit from everything!!! :-)


jakee  (C License)

Feb 20, 2012, 11:03 AM
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jakee, that whole theory of yours only works in a stable belly to earth deployment scenario. When the shit hits the fan, you might not be.....Cool

In that case you've probably slipped on exit and are probably fucked anyway. So you might as well get some cool footage of itTongue


(This post was edited by jakee on Feb 20, 2012, 11:05 AM)


stayhigh  (F 111)

Feb 20, 2012, 7:43 PM
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How else are you gonna get your face shot when you are swooping down the mountain???


nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 21, 2012, 3:11 AM
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jakee, that whole theory of yours only works in a stable belly to earth deployment scenario. When the shit hits the fan, you might not be.....Cool
yeah yeah, like if wingsuiters would do double backflips or any other kinds of flippy-do's before pitching their PC Tongue

http://www.facebook.com/...kW_QdYirxRQMGWmjEo6g

You mean like this (go to the 33 second mark)ShockedTongue


Squeak  (E 1313)

Feb 21, 2012, 3:28 AM
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You mean like this (go to the 33 second mark)ShockedTongue

you might meet those guys at Pinjara, one of them (at least) jumps thereSlySlySlySly


(This post was edited by Squeak on Feb 21, 2012, 3:30 AM)


freeflyJoe  (D 16622)

Feb 21, 2012, 11:12 AM
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