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sebcat  (D 22826)

Feb 15, 2012, 1:37 PM
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Hello,

I want a pair of cross connectors for this season. I'm thinking a piece of dacron line between the hard links (front/rear ofc), but I want to check with you guys first. I've never seen a cross connector up close. Anyone got pictures, measurements, tips to share?

//Sebastian


chuckbrown  (D 19538)

Feb 17, 2012, 10:01 AM
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I've used pull up cord. It's also been years since I put my feet below someone's slider.


RedundantRigger  (D License)

May 10, 2015, 8:05 AM
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Bumping.
Gonna make a few sets of cross connectors for the homies and myself. I figured I'd use some of the old bridles I have lying around.
X connectors aren't rocket surgery but I still like to fish for wisdom anyway.


IJskonijn  (A License)

May 11, 2015, 12:45 AM
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A pair of strong pull-up cords tied securely between front and back hardlinks should do the job. That's what I had on my old L160 (rental), but I haven't gotten around to fixing it on my new (for me) canopy.

Just be sure not to make them TOO short, ideally they should be nearly tight when flying the canopy.


RedundantRigger  (D License)

May 11, 2015, 12:03 PM
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Sounds like it would be best to tie em on while under canopy?


skyjumpenfool  (Student)

May 13, 2015, 6:21 PM
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RedundantRigger wrote:
Sounds like it would be best to tie em on while under canopy?

Might be safer to blow it up on the ground and have a friend measure the length. Or, if you prefer, go ahead and waste a jump ticket on a dive to tie on cross connectors. Wink

Bridal may be a little heavy (depending on the bridal) Remember you have to stow it when you pack it. Cool


RedundantRigger  (D License)

May 13, 2015, 7:00 PM
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I was picturing we all do it together in a plane Crazy

I got a bunch of them orange vigil pull-ups. They seem sturdy, for pull ups at least. I think they will work great.


texascrw  (D 18006)

May 13, 2015, 9:56 PM
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It would be a whole lot simpler, the next time the canopy is unpacked, to measure the distance inside the grommets on the slider. Front to back. They limit how far apart your risers can go. Measure and add whatever excess you need to tie them off. Have fun.


RedundantRigger  (D License)

May 14, 2015, 10:08 PM
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Yes off course you guys are correct.
I just let the stupid inn me emerge sometimes Tongue


Hellis

May 15, 2015, 1:26 AM
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texascrw wrote:
It would be a whole lot simpler, the next time the canopy is unpacked, to measure the distance inside the grommets on the slider. Front to back. They limit how far apart your risers can go. Measure and add whatever excess you need to tie them off. Have fun.

Yes it limits how far apart they can go, but not how much apart they normally go.
All my canopies, and all videos I have seen, the slider is not streched out front to back.


indyz  (D 28525)

May 15, 2015, 5:47 AM
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I'm not a fan of using pull-up cords for cross connectors. They might work ok to get you through the day, but they aren't a good permanent solution. I have personally seen cross connectors break that were made out of Type III tape (ribbon type pull-up cords), and have seen knots come untied. I have no idea what material the new kind of pull-up cords are made out of, but I wouldn't count on it being any stronger.

1" Type IV square weave is more than twice as strong as binding tape, it handles wear better, and when the formation gets heavy it is more comfortable for the personal holding the grip.


(This post was edited by indyz on May 15, 2015, 5:48 AM)


sedwick  (C 36152)

May 16, 2015, 5:46 AM
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I tend to agree.

Use the pull up chords to figure out the length, measure, have a rigger make you a proper permanent pair.


nolhtairt  (D License)

May 18, 2015, 10:02 AM
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My risers have cross connectors tacked on between the front and back, made of the same material as the risers themselves, but just one layer. Works great. Just tuck them in between the risers when packing them into the rig and you'd never notice they were there, if the color is the same, that is. They were installed by my master rigger.


topdocker  (D 12018)

May 19, 2015, 11:20 AM
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I gotta ask the OP.... Why cross connectors? What are you doing that requires a cross connector? Not a criticism, just curious...

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RedundantRigger  (D License)

May 19, 2015, 12:35 PM
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Building planes!
Makes it more comfortable and safer


nolhtairt  (D License)

May 19, 2015, 12:38 PM
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topdocker wrote:
I gotta ask the OP.... Why cross connectors? What are you doing that requires a cross connector? Not a criticism, just curious...

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To have something secure to hook your feet in.


topdocker  (D 12018)

May 19, 2015, 2:01 PM
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nolhtairt wrote:
topdocker wrote:
I gotta ask the OP.... Why cross connectors? What are you doing that requires a cross connector? Not a criticism, just curious...

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To have something secure to hook your feet in.

Really!?! Thanks, Captain Obvious.

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nolhtairt  (D License)

May 19, 2015, 8:30 PM
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topdocker wrote:
nolhtairt wrote:
topdocker wrote:
I gotta ask the OP.... Why cross connectors? What are you doing that requires a cross connector? Not a criticism, just curious...

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To have something secure to hook your feet in.

Really!?! Thanks, Captain Obvious.

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Be a dick if you want to. Makes no difference to me. Wink


Glitch  (D 10834)

May 20, 2015, 10:09 AM
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pssstt.... dude.... read more and post less, and respect those who have blazed the trail you follow.

Just say'n.... Wink


piisfish

May 22, 2015, 2:06 AM
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what is the use for a cross connector ?
I don't know what it is.


peek  (D 8884)

May 22, 2015, 6:23 AM
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topdocker wrote:
I gotta ask the OP.... Why cross connectors? What are you doing that requires a cross connector? Not a criticism, just curious... top

Craig, my knowledge and experience with CFS is dated. We used to assume that "stirrups" (front to back cross connectors) were very helpful for large stacks and planes. Is this not the case now?


Premier faulknerwn  (D 17441)
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May 22, 2015, 11:37 AM
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A cross-connector is a strap that goes in between the front and back risers and keeps your feet from taking the slider back up the lines if the stack gets heavy below you.

Gary - cross-connectors are still useful in big stacks, its just that no one does big stacks anymore. Its all diamonds..


peek  (D 8884)

May 22, 2015, 11:45 AM
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faulknerwn wrote:
Gary - cross-connectors are still useful in big stacks, its just that no one does big stacks anymore. Its all diamonds..

Got it. I always found that they were useful in even 2 stacks or planes, I suppose because back then we used a variety of canopies and wing loadings. Maybe everything is very balanced now.


keithbar  (A 14048)

May 22, 2015, 12:15 PM
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Got it. I always found that they were useful in even 2 stacks or planes, I suppose because back then we used a variety of canopies and wing loadings. Maybe everything is very balanced now. now that made me laugh out loud. " very balanced " crw jumpers Laugh good one Gary


topdocker  (D 12018)

May 26, 2015, 8:31 AM
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nolhtairt wrote:
topdocker wrote:
nolhtairt wrote:
topdocker wrote:
I gotta ask the OP.... Why cross connectors? What are you doing that requires a cross connector? Not a criticism, just curious...

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To have something secure to hook your feet in.

Really!?! Thanks, Captain Obvious.

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Be a dick if you want to. Makes no difference to me. Wink

Wow.....

I bet you spent hours coming up with that retort! So scathing!

Guess I won't make any more comments or suggestions here then.

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