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nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 5, 2012, 8:50 PM
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Yesterday I had to review my EP's with the chief instructor at a DZ as I was new there. I was impressed with some of what he said and did. It was almost certainly the most thorough briefing I have had on certain area's. It got me thinking that while what he went through was probably not applicable for an AFF student for A or B license sign-off it might be worth covering with students. Interestingly he had his first mal just after 3000 jumps.

We are all taught to look at our handles before pulling them. The new part for me was a 'look' at your cutaway handle after cutting away, basically making sure that it was still in your hand and therefore you were safe to deploy your reserve. The other aspect that was reinforced was maintaining a solid arch during the whole process. Final aspect was to 'peel' the reserve handle before punching. I don't remember being told that before, yes I know about it for the cutaway handle.

That was my only positive experience at the dz though. I also got to hear an AFF student being given the cracking advice by her instructor that parachutes flare more powerfully when the wind is strong.


Squeak  (E 1313)

Feb 5, 2012, 9:41 PM
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That was my only positive experience at the dz though. I also got to hear an AFF student being given the cracking advice by her instructor that parachutes flare more powerfully when the wind is strong.

So we wont be seeing you there again????


nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 5, 2012, 11:00 PM
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That was my only positive experience at the dz though. I also got to hear an AFF student being given the cracking advice by her instructor that parachutes flare more powerfully when the wind is strong.

So we wont be seeing you there again????

I'll never go back to that dz on my own. If I have arranged to meet someone I know there then sure.


Squeak  (E 1313)

Feb 6, 2012, 12:28 AM
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That was my only positive experience at the dz though. I also got to hear an AFF student being given the cracking advice by her instructor that parachutes flare more powerfully when the wind is strong.

So we wont be seeing you there again????

I'll never go back to that dz on my own. If I have arranged to meet someone I know there then sure.
Oh well, your loss mate, it's a great DZ.
We had a ball on SaturdaySmile

It's a shame you could only find one positive experience with the place. especially as it is one of the best equipped DZs (for ground facilities) i have ever seen anywhere.
PLUS I jump there and that automatically give the place a +10 on the Good Stuff scale.CoolCoolCoolCoolCool

I hope you have a better time of it in Pinjarra, Give the DZO my regardsSly


nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 6, 2012, 12:46 AM
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Oh well, your loss mate, it's a great DZ.
We had a ball on SaturdaySmile

It's a shame you could only find one positive experience with the place. especially as it is one of the best equipped DZs (for ground facilities) i have ever seen anywhere.
PLUS I jump there and that automatically give the place a +10 on the Good Stuff scale.CoolCoolCoolCoolCool

I hope you have a better time of it in Pinjarra, Give the DZO my regardsSly

I'll try anywhere - maybe I just caught the dz on a crap day - it still didn't leave a good impression. It was a pity that neither you or Rob were there on Sunday.

But all that is besides the point. I was really impressed with the EP review I was given which was the main point of my post.


bucketlistpilot  (C 1204)

Feb 6, 2012, 4:01 AM
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We are all taught to look at our handles before pulling them. The new part for me was a 'look' at your cutaway handle after cutting away, basically making sure that it was still in your hand and therefore you were safe to deploy your reserve. The other aspect that was reinforced was maintaining a solid arch during the whole process. Final aspect was to 'peel' the reserve handle before punching. I don't remember being told that before, yes I know about it for the cutaway handle.

Sounds familiar. Turned up at Skydive Express at York a few years ago with 30 jumps in NZ, a logbook and no licence. Dixie was CI and Don was DZSO. Don gave me the same impressive review of EP's and Dixie gave me an Aussie A licence.

I've only been back twice as I live in Newcastle and work (and jump) in NZ 19 from every 28 days, but rate this as the best Dz I've been. Hope to get out there again for a weekend in April.

I still laugh when I look at the back of my APF licence and see it listed as my home DZ - it's about 4,000km from home.


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Feb 6, 2012, 4:23 AM
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Nigel,
You embarrassed me.

I know I taught you to "look at your handles and keep your eyes on them. If your hand slips off you're already looking at it so you don't have to go searching for it."

I know I taught you, "make sure you cutaway before you pull the reserve. Right is right, left is last" for pull order.

And I know I taught you to "peel and pull" BOTH handles.

BlushBlushBlushBlush

What I'm interested in, besides your safety, is how did his review differ on how to handle any/all those situations on the list I gave you?


nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 6, 2012, 7:37 PM
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Nigel,
You embarrassed me.

I know I taught you to "look at your handles and keep your eyes on them. If your hand slips off you're already looking at it so you don't have to go searching for it."

I know I taught you, "make sure you cutaway before you pull the reserve. Right is right, left is last" for pull order.

And I know I taught you to "peel and pull" BOTH handles.

BlushBlushBlushBlush

What I'm interested in, besides your safety, is how did his review differ on how to handle any/all those situations on the list I gave you?

Andy your memory is failingTongue You've not done EP's with me. Mike did my recurrency training.

It might purely be down to jumper focus and as a now current jumper, he was able to focus more on the finer detail than is appropriate for a new jumper.

I am certain that I have never been taught to peel the reserve handle. If you think about the procedure I was taught look at cutaway grab it, look at reserve now grab that. At that point I am no longer looking at my cutaway when I pull it. I guess it was that nuance that he was drumming in.


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Feb 6, 2012, 8:29 PM
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Nigel,
You embarrassed me.

I know I taught you to "look at your handles and keep your eyes on them. If your hand slips off you're already looking at it so you don't have to go searching for it."

I know I taught you, "make sure you cutaway before you pull the reserve. Right is right, left is last" for pull order.

And I know I taught you to "peel and pull" BOTH handles.

BlushBlushBlushBlush

What I'm interested in, besides your safety, is how did his review differ on how to handle any/all those situations on the list I gave you?

Andy your memory is failingTongue You've not done EP's with me. Mike did my recurrency training.

It might purely be down to jumper focus and as a now current jumper, he was able to focus more on the finer detail than is appropriate for a new jumper.

I am certain that I have never been taught to peel the reserve handle. If you think about the procedure I was taught look at cutaway grab it, look at reserve now grab that. At that point I am no longer looking at my cutaway when I pull it. I guess it was that nuance that he was drumming in.

Well, bust my britches. I could have sworn....

Where the hell was I and how did Mike get you?

OK....I can't be wrong on this one...ask Dana what I taught her. See if she remembers.
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Squeak  (E 1313)

Feb 6, 2012, 10:10 PM
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We are all taught to look at our handles before pulling them. The new part for me was a 'look' at your cutaway handle after cutting away, basically making sure that it was still in your hand and therefore you were safe to deploy your reserve. The other aspect that was reinforced was maintaining a solid arch during the whole process. Final aspect was to 'peel' the reserve handle before punching. I don't remember being told that before, yes I know about it for the cutaway handle.

Sounds familiar. Turned up at Skydive Express at York a few years ago with 30 jumps in NZ, a logbook and no licence. Dixie was CI and Don was DZSO. Don gave me the same impressive review of EP's and Dixie gave me an Aussie A licence.

I've only been back twice as I live in Newcastle and work (and jump) in NZ 19 from every 28 days, but rate this as the best Dz I've been. Hope to get out there again for a weekend in April.

I still laugh when I look at the back of my APF licence and see it listed as my home DZ - it's about 4,000km from home.

See if you can make it out over Easter, It tends to go off, at EasterWink. Im sure we can find more than one positive for you to walk away withSlySlySly


nigel99  (D 1)

Feb 6, 2012, 10:40 PM
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Nigel,
You embarrassed me.

I know I taught you to "look at your handles and keep your eyes on them. If your hand slips off you're already looking at it so you don't have to go searching for it."

I know I taught you, "make sure you cutaway before you pull the reserve. Right is right, left is last" for pull order.

And I know I taught you to "peel and pull" BOTH handles.

BlushBlushBlushBlush

What I'm interested in, besides your safety, is how did his review differ on how to handle any/all those situations on the list I gave you?

Andy your memory is failingTongue You've not done EP's with me. Mike did my recurrency training.

It might purely be down to jumper focus and as a now current jumper, he was able to focus more on the finer detail than is appropriate for a new jumper.

I am certain that I have never been taught to peel the reserve handle. If you think about the procedure I was taught look at cutaway grab it, look at reserve now grab that. At that point I am no longer looking at my cutaway when I pull it. I guess it was that nuance that he was drumming in.

Well, bust my britches. I could have sworn....

Where the hell was I and how did Mike get you?

OK....I can't be wrong on this one...ask Dana what I taught her. See if she remembers.
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You were playing at GSR 66 ways.


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Feb 7, 2012, 4:21 AM
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You were playing at GSR 66 ways.

Ahhhhh...the light comes ON!

Funny, I remember the SkyVan jump with you like it was yesterday, though.
Smile



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Do NOT get old. Memory is the second thing to go.
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