Jan 20, 2012, 8:47 AM
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In the US the rules are:
If the original application to the FAA for TSO has life limits specified in it then it can be limited to that time and can not go beyond it. It is still subject to the 180 day inspection cycle. This can't be changed, by the manufacturer, after the original approval is issued except by a grounding recall issued by the FAA.
If the original application does not have a life limit then there is no life limit, if falls into the "Progressive Mainainance" process. That means that it is only good for 180 days and then must be re-certified for another 180 days. This can go on until a certifying rigger won't certify it any longer.
Jan 20, 2012, 9:17 AM
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Okay local rules say I can't jump it any more. Its manufactured by para-flite. Anybody know what their rules are?
Also what are the regulations in the US?
I don't believe it has a life limit as per the maker. However, it is probably an older reserve that is not worth much :( If you specify the model and the DOM you could get a more precise answer.
Jan 20, 2012, 9:21 AM
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Okay local rules say I can't jump it any more. Its manufactured by para-flite. Anybody know what their rules are?
Also what are the regulations in the US?
Para-Flite had no life limits. Basically, for personal skydiving gear built in the US, no companies have had life limits listed.
(Some life limits that do exist: Sending back PD reserves for example after X pack jobs or Y deployments - but no calendar life. Strong Tandem rigs - Strong lifes them. And some companies now put life limits on pilot emergency parachutes.)
While I like John Sherman's viewpoint, it is a very debatable point. If someone brings gear to a US rigger and the latest manual (not the original manual) says that that pilot rig has a 20 year life, many riggers are going to follow what the manufacturer says.
Para-Flite reserves are fairly old fashioned in design. Solid enough, but a 20 year old Para-Flite is going to be worth much less than a 20 year old PD reserve.
(Is it just the reserves that are lifed in Ireland? Just wondering how people would jump antique gear there.)
Jan 20, 2012, 10:42 AM
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Okay local rules say I can't jump it any more. Its manufactured by para-flite. Anybody know what their rules are?
Also what are the regulations in the US?
Para-Flite had no life limits. Basically, for personal skydiving gear built in the US, no companies have had life limits listed.
While I like John Sherman's viewpoint, it is a very debatable point. If someone brings gear to a US rigger and the latest manual (not the original manual) says that that pilot rig has a 20 year life, many riggers are going to follow what the manufacturer says.
And many FAA inspectors will give the same opinion. The latest manual, if it says it superceeds the previous manual, must be followed.
Jan 20, 2012, 1:30 PM
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You can try selling it for cheaps here in The Netherlands. I have a swift 5 in my accuracy rig myself, and have sold a 20yr old PD-R 143 and a 20ish yr old tempo 120 last year to other jumpers. There's no life limit as such here, and if the reserve is good, it's good. Certainly for a reserve for a water rig, accuracy rig or other rig that needs to be cheap, there's a small market here for older reserves. Or you can try poutting it on ebay as a decoration canopy/car cover. That might actually net you more.
Jan 21, 2012, 7:19 AM
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Its a Swift plus II I think. Manufactured in 1992.
As for jumping antiques, maybe someone else can answer that. All I know is my rigger told me I need a new reserve
Let me GUESS.... your rigger ALSO happens to BE a gear dealer AND ..... he sells reserves!!!!!!! just guessing...
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If the national rules say 20 years, the rigger has to follow these rules. Period. There's no need for discussion. "Yeah, but yesterday was fine so what's wrong today ?"
Or you are saying that every time a rigger declare piece of gear as "un airworthy " he or she is trying to sell something extra? In that case I hope you trust your rigger more than that!!!
Jan 21, 2012, 7:55 AM
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what sizes did para-flite reserves come in?
The swift plus were available as a 140 somthing, 170 somthing, 200 and 225 (I think that was the largest). The original 5 cell swift was only available as a 170 something.
I have one ride each on the 200 and 225. They worked very nicely, quick smooth opening, had a pretty steep glide angle, but flared well - easy landing. Lots of kevlar reinforcement I think.
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Jan 21, 2012, 8:10 AM
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I trust MY rigger just fine......cause he has EARNED that trust...
but like MANY things... i've seen good ones and i've seen BAD ones.....( many of whom would push all sorts of gear on people who may or may NOt neeed it) .... just sayin'....
Jan 21, 2012, 8:15 AM
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They also made a larger 5 cell reserve modeled after the Cirrus main, forgot how big that was, I think they made an Orion 7 cell reserve? Not so many of either of those were made I think. Before the 5 cell swift was introduced, the 5 cell safety flyer (the first square reserve I think) and safety star, both 170 ish.
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Jan 21, 2012, 1:10 PM
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only as a car cover.....I had an old Rascal 202 that I had never used but still had in an old container....DOM 1989. Two different riggers I knew and trusted refused to repack it for me....so end of discussion. That's what I pay them for, their skills AND their judgment.
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