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BlindBrick  (C 35382)

Jan 9, 2012, 7:50 PM
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Anything of interest Spot or anyone else there?

-Blind

Electronaut  (C 38872)

Jan 9, 2012, 8:37 PM
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Everything Sony has announced is OIS (from my reading of the press releases). Panasonic has a cam with EIS. Samsung's press release doesn't mention either way. Stills wise, haven't really paid attention.

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Jan 9, 2012, 8:52 PM
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Only interesting things I have heard from people there are about the Roku device for internet streaming on TV's and RED's Scarlet-X is still the talk from a lot of people.

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Jan 12, 2012, 12:00 PM
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http://www.slashgear.com/...-due-march-10208303/ This is about the only "new/cool/accessible thing" I found at CES this year that might interest skydivers.

PharmerPhil  (D 23899)

Jan 12, 2012, 12:17 PM
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What is everyone saying the delivery format will be for 4K consumer videos? Just files/streaming? Or is there some sort of Blu-ray/4K?

Premier DSE  (D 29060)
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Jan 12, 2012, 2:17 PM
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Mpeg 4/AVC.
It's all streaming/file-based. The days of optical media are numbered. Like I said on Facebook approx a year ago, HD is dead, 2K is an "almost ran" format.
Get ready for 4K (and then 8 k in a decade +)

wetrock

Jan 12, 2012, 3:18 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/...G2eb396eFAAAAAeAAUAA
Found this small format camera interesting it has a heart rate monitor, g-force speed and altitude data that can be displayed in video.

BlindBrick  (C 35382)

Jan 12, 2012, 5:02 PM
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In reply to:
http://www.youtube.com/...G2eb396eFAAAAAeAAUAA
Found this small format camera interesting it has a heart rate monitor, g-force speed and altitude data that can be displayed in video.

What's weird is that this thing has been being test jumped and rumor of it hans't been running rampant. I can understand NDA's, but you'd think other people at the dz would have mentioned it.

-Blind

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Jan 13, 2012, 5:40 AM
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In reply to:
http://www.slashgear.com/...-due-march-10208303/ This is about the only "new/cool/accessible thing" I found at CES this year that might interest skydivers.

Looks really cool but this quote "Priced at just under $5k" from that article prolly keeps it from being an option for most of us. Unsure

Thanks for letting us know what's coming though. It's great to have someone at the forefront of new technology that is looking at it from the same prospective that we are! Cool

Thanks and Blue Skies,
Jason

Laszloimage  (D 22468)

Jan 13, 2012, 1:17 PM
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"The days of optical media are numbered"
I know for sure Skydive New England delivers their tandem videos and stills on a thumb drive, they don't burn DVDs anymore. The drives are provided by the DZ to the camera staff.
My Bluray player is only 2.5yrs old...Crazy

Laszloimage  (D 22468)

Jan 13, 2012, 1:24 PM
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Spot,
Thank you for the info!
That JVC 4K camera looks very promising.
So a whole new era begins again right?
4K (or even higher) cameras, displays, delivery formats, codecs, and etc...
We just sorted out the 1080 and the AVCHDCrazy

ripcords  (D 8808)

Jan 13, 2012, 6:37 PM
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What do you think about the Balanced Optical Steadyshot Image Stabilization with active mode (BOS) on the higher end prosumer version camcorders Sony just announced at CES like the HDR PJ710V?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...nition_Handycam.html

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Jan 13, 2012, 9:25 PM
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the test models weren't all that impressive for what we do. The image block movement isn't noticeably any better than a single lens movement system.

But heck, you can project your DZ logo on the forehead of a student during the jump (just kidding)Wink

Electronaut  (C 38872)

Jan 13, 2012, 10:25 PM
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I cede to DSE, I don't jump Handycam or stills, I just know OIS is frowned upon. Sorry.

guscabana  (D 147)

Jan 14, 2012, 4:23 AM
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there's 2 new CXs with electronic steadyshot and 60/50 fr/sec recording (AVCHD ver.2), which should be nice for us, but they came with a great joke from Sony: they don't have filter threads!!! CX190 and CX210 (with an 'e" for Pal Europe.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...-lineup-revealed-ces
http://www.sony.co.uk/...eType=TechnicalSpecs
http://www.sony.co.uk/...eType=TechnicalSpecs

Anyway, electronic steadyshot is back and a box with filter thread will do...

Electronaut  (C 38872)

Jan 14, 2012, 12:45 PM
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Based on guscabana's post, there are some new ones with EIS. Were you able to see these? The CX190/200/210 that is.

axelandr  (B 103786)

Jan 14, 2012, 1:11 PM
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In reply to:
Based on guscabana's post, there are some new ones with EIS. Were you able to see these? The CX190/200/210 that is.

form what I can see it seems like at least two of them have OIS and not EIS.. I might be completely off, so please correct me if I'm wrong..

http://www.sony.co.uk/...b.ceh/hdrcx190eb.ceh

Alex.

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Jan 14, 2012, 5:50 PM
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yes, but they're snap-in lens adapters. Sony has also changed how they're mounting lenses on the AVCHD lineup.

In these small cams, I have no interest in them outside of skydiving. Nothing really new/exciting there that works for us, IMO.
The CX190, I have worked with already.

guscabana  (D 147)

Jan 15, 2012, 2:15 AM
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but the 50/60 frames a second doesn't make a big difference for us or I dreaming? when there's movement, people crossing the frame, shooting without wide angle...
About the adapter: I can see in the cx250/260 and up models some kind of bayonet, but in the basic models 190/200/210 looks like there's nothing.
Thanks.

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Jan 15, 2012, 8:44 AM
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Gus, someone that shoots without wide would certainly find the lower models useful, if you don't mind the very high compression ratio (I think most don't, based on the popularity of the really poor cameras out there), but for tandem, fourway, and general shooting of friends, I guess I didn't look at them as useful.

Frames per second is nice, sure. But it only contributes marginally to smoothness of movement, so outside of slowing the footage, I'm not sure where the real value comes in.

ripcords  (D 8808)

Jan 15, 2012, 12:00 PM
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How about the digital still cameras at CES, anything new and cool with them?

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Jan 15, 2012, 4:26 PM
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I honestly didn't look at any of them. Beyond the Sony NEX and Canon cams, I wasn't looking out for anything. My apologies. I only had one day, plus the pre-CES stuff we did for our client.

ripcords  (D 8808)

Jan 15, 2012, 6:03 PM
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No need to apologize. I appreciate the information and guidance you have provided.Cool

Flinken  (D 20944)

Jan 19, 2012, 2:20 AM
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How about the Balanced Optical SteadyShot?
Clip on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VphxfCXu984
Added to the “hated” OIS it looks like the whole lens is suspended in a gimball like solution (gyroscopic), it would be nice to check/test how this new Balanced Optical SteadyShot handles freefall situations (belly and free fly of course).


(This post was edited by Flinken on Jan 19, 2012, 2:21 AM)

goobersnuftda  (D License)

Jan 19, 2012, 10:54 PM
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Not at CES but still out there Clicky
At least it doesn't look as dorky as that GoPro :)

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