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Jockeyshifter63  (D 33111)

Nov 29, 2011, 5:59 PM
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A few years ago I had a bypass colostomy that was reversed after a year. My wife and I started jumping this year and it looks like this is part of our lives now. There is a very real possibility I will end up with permanent colostomy. Does anyone know of someone who jumped with a bag frequently? If so could I get in contact with them? I will be away from the forum for a couple of days but will check in then. Thanks.


racerman  (C 18409)

Nov 30, 2011, 4:24 PM
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Don't do it!!! The colostomy bag will expand with altitude and I'm sure you can guess the rest!Frown


nitrochute  (D License)

Nov 30, 2011, 6:42 PM
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you can "burp" the bag, no biggie


Jockeyshifter63  (D 33111)

Dec 1, 2011, 9:09 AM
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Thanks Nitro. When I had my bypass colostomy I had to do this frequently and if I was careful with my diet the oder was not too awful bad. I have thot maybe I could get away with 5K hop and pops as a solution.


Genego  (D 10375)

Dec 1, 2011, 1:30 PM
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You may check with your doctor and see if you are a candidate for colostomy irrigation. Some people find that the process, which uses an enema through the stoma, clears the colon for the day and a bag may not be necessary.


Jockeyshifter63  (D 33111)

Dec 2, 2011, 8:02 AM
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Your right. I forgot about the irrigaton thing. Thanks.


skydiver30960  (D License)

Dec 8, 2011, 2:26 PM
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Dude, if you need to you can find a way.

Skydivers tend to overhype the "air expands at altitude" thing; I think we do it just to justify farting on the plane. Smile Yeah, there is expansion but it isn't nearly as much as we'd like to convince ourselves. If you are careful with what you eat on days you jump and probably a day or so before (just to avoid gas-producing foods), and burp the bag before gearing up, I expect you'd have good results.

To convince yourself, do this: next jump at altitude, take a ziploc bag with you. Put just a tiny bit of air in it, to simulate the amount of air that might remain in your bag after you diligently "wrung it out" on the ground prior to gear-up. Then take it with you to altitude and see how much it expands. I bet it'll be less than you expect, and should dispel some fears about jumping with an ostomy bag.

Elvisio "ICU RN who learned the hard way the value of burping the bag" Rodriguez


Jockeyshifter63  (D 33111)

Dec 13, 2011, 2:32 PM
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I am going to try that. Love the idea of a simple experiment. With all the operations and a very small colon right now I actually am very careful what I eat the day before and just dont eat the day I jump til after the planes are down.
The value of burping the bag line is funny. Ya just gotta laugh at this shit or you will die crying. I have a couple of funny stories 'bout the burping.

I was going to make up a bumper sticker that said......"Get offa my ass or I'll throw my colostomy bag on your windshield". My wife stopped me but I still think it would be funny!Tongue


deltron80  (A License)

Dec 14, 2011, 11:57 AM
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Sorry you have to put up with that crap...(no pun intended haha)

Sounds like it must be a big challenge in your life, but I bet it makes you appreciate that you can still jump even more! Cool


skydiver30960  (D License)

Dec 18, 2011, 12:38 PM
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A quick Google search brought me to this page:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/...ty-volume-d_195.html

About halfway down the page, under the title "Altitude and Specific Volume Correction" there is a list of altitudes and correction factors. For example, at 9900 feet it lists a factor of 1.39, or about a 40% increase.

At first glance that might seem like a lot, and if your ostomy bag was full of gas to begin with, it could be trouble. But, again, if you're careful to empty the bag first, that 40% on top of the small amount of gas left in your bag after you empty it should be no problem.

Elvisio "shoulda done my homework in the first post" Rodriguez


Hamstervielle  (A License)

Mar 14, 2012, 3:51 PM
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I have just turned 17 and have been jumping for a few months already and I have a permanent colostomy. I have had no problems with it so far and I notice no difference while jumping from 14,000ft compared to a hop and pop. The only thing I have found is to make sure the bottom of the bag is not tucked under the leg strap. This happened to me during a high speed reserve deployment and the shock nearly pulled the bag off. If you have any more questions feel free to ask. I hope all goes well for you.


jentyk  (A 110960)

Sep 18, 2012, 2:28 PM
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Hi Guys,

I just jumped today from 13k with ileostomy bag for the first time and can confirm I had no issues at all.
However, I emptied the bag before boarding.
Theory about bag expanding and exploding seems to be pure fiction for me.


smiles  (D 41)

Oct 17, 2012, 2:06 PM
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hey!....

i have suffered with Crohn's disease for 35 yrs., the last 5 yrs. have permanent colostomy.

Have had no problem with my stoma & skydiving.
ya just gotta luv that!!! TongueCoolTongue


baronn  (D 22387)

Mar 22, 2013, 5:01 PM
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The toughest part is getting a pair of shoes to go with the bag.......


BigMark  (D 17505)

Mar 22, 2013, 7:28 PM
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The best part is the ability to get even with Seagulls. Sly



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