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Krip  (Student)

Nov 18, 2011, 5:16 PM
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Hi Ladies and Gentlemen

Almost back in the day when the sq's first came out it looked like the gear manufactures were using the fun jumpers as test jumpers.

It seemed like some jumpers were a member of the new sq canopy a year/6 mo club trying to work out the bugs and find a kinder and gentler canopy.

I stayed with what worked for me and my weight (135#), my belly wart and PCAngelic

After college we moved around and tried to stay with the same gear until 1975. The folks at the DZ didn't like what they saw and I didn't like the new attitude at the DZ's.

We quit for 10 years wanteed to get our knee's back in the breeze asked some old friends for advice and bought a crusie lite and swift reserve in a vector II for our first state of the art custom made rig. Smile Bought it from a dude in oregon named Ralph, 150 mi from where we livedUnsure

The sqs were fine until around 500 jumps when the cruisleight started to snivel bad.Frown To bad it never occured to me to pull higher and enjoy the nice slow soft opening. Or I would have jumped it until I quit.

The originial Sabre's had hit the market by that time and we talked to some peeps at Z-hills who steered us away from the 190 and recommended the sabre 170. By then we weighed a "little more" than 170#'s .

The sabre was a nice canopy and we put 3-400 jumps on it Until we finaly quit a few yr's ago. If I was still jumping that canopy would still be good enough for me.Smile

After the longggggg lead in how many sq's have you guy's had over the yr's, did you ever feel like a test jumper, what do you think about the current trend. In the industry.

K-RIP


Amazon  (D License)

Nov 18, 2011, 6:31 PM
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Hi Ladies and Gentlemen

Almost back in the day when the sq's first came out it looked like the gear manufactures were using the fun jumpers as test jumpers.

It seemed like some jumpers were a member of the new sq canopy a year/6 mo club trying to work out the bugs and find a kinder and gentler canopy.

I stayed with what worked for me and my weight (135#), my belly wart and PCAngelic

After college we moved around and tried to stay with the same gear until 1975. The folks at the DZ didn't like what they saw and I didn't like the new attitude at the DZ's.

We quit for 10 years wanteed to get our knee's back in the breeze asked some old friends for advice and bought a crusie lite and swift reserve in a vector II for our first state of the art custom made rig. Smile Bought it from a dude in oregon named Ralph, 150 mi from where we livedUnsure

The sqs were fine until around 500 jumps when the cruisleight started to snivel bad.Frown To bad it never occured to me to pull higher and enjoy the nice slow soft opening. Or I would have jumped it until I quit.

The originial Sabre's had hit the market by that time and we talked to some peeps at Z-hills who steered us away from the 190 and recommended the sabre 170. By then we weighed a "little more" than 170#'s .

The sabre was a nice canopy and we put 3-400 jumps on it Until we finaly quit a few yr's ago. If I was still jumping that canopy would still be good enough for me.Smile

After the longggggg lead in how many sq's have you guy's had over the yr's, did you ever feel like a test jumper, what do you think about the current trend. In the industry.

K-RIP

I only have about 20 in the loft.... wanna jump some old stuff???Angelic


Genego  (D 10375)

Nov 18, 2011, 6:32 PM
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12 (Roughly in order of appearance) : Para-Flite DC-5, Para-Flite Nimbus XL, Pioneer TMC-1 (Tactical Main Canopy 1), Para-Flite Cruiselite XL, PD 260, Excalibur 190, Sabre 190, Stiletto 170, Stiletto 150, Vengeance 135, Vector Tandem 421, EZ 384.

Felt like a test jumper on the Nimbus XL, Nimbus, and Excalibur.


airtwardo  (D License)

Nov 18, 2011, 6:56 PM
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from smallest to largest...

150
170
190
210
220
230
240
260
325
400

Currently I'm jumping a 210 with a 220 reserve.


Premier wmw999  (D 6296)

Nov 18, 2011, 7:17 PM
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First to last:
1980: Viking Superlite (230)
1983: Firefly (170, then 2 cells added for 220 when it got porous)
2002: Safire 149
2004: Diablo 135
2008: Pilot 150 (loaned for a year), then back to the Diablo
2011: Stiletto 135

I guess you could say I've been downsizing gradually.

Wendy P.


pchapman  (D 1014)

Nov 18, 2011, 9:08 PM
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FWIW, my regular canopies:
1991: Titan 265
2003: Sabre 135
2004: FX 88

Along the way I picked up some odds and ends for specific purposes or to play with:
Parafoil 282
Maverick 200 CRW
Firelite 172 CRW
Evolution 140
Cobalt 75

That's leaving out some triangular and round shaped canopies.


Krip  (Student)

Nov 18, 2011, 11:05 PM
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In reply to:
from smallest to largest...

150
170
190
210
220
230
240
260
325
400

Currently I'm jumping a 210 with a 220 reserve.

I assume the 400 and maybe the 325 were tandem rigs and maybe the 220+ is your demo rig

You stopped jumping the 150 when the wingloading started to increase due to your added age and lbs.

I wanteed to downsize for the smaller pack volume but I just couldn't lose the pounds to keep the WL in my safety zone.

I never owned one but I did make ONE jump on "The Nova". Don't remember the size but it was "the Nova" as soon as I poped the breaks I knew I was behind the curveFrown

OMFG I just made one slight turn to get it headed to the wide open spaces and couldn't wait to get my body on the ground in one piece. The damn canopy was flying faster than my brain.Pirate


drjump  (D 2785)

Nov 19, 2011, 6:13 AM
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Squares=3
Pegasus
PD 210
Spectra 190


airtwardo  (D License)

Nov 19, 2011, 6:49 AM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
from smallest to largest...

150
170
190
210
220
230
240
260
325
400

Currently I'm jumping a 210 with a 220 reserve.

I assume the 400 and maybe the 325 were tandem rigs and maybe the 220+ is your demo rig

You stopped jumping the 150 when the wing-loading started to increase due to your added age and lbs.

I wanted to downsize for the smaller pack volume but I just couldn't lose the pounds to keep the WL in my safety zone.

I never owned one but I did make ONE jump on "The Nova". Don't remember the size but it was "the Nova" as soon as I popped the breaks I knew I was behind the curveFrown

OMFG I just made one slight turn to get it headed to the wide open spaces and couldn't wait to get my body on the ground in one piece. The damn canopy was flying faster than my brain.Pirate


The 400 is a tandem canopy but the 325 (mighty Mac) is for jumping flags.

I quit jumping the 150 not because of weight issues, I weigh the less now as I did in college, 240 then...220 now. I just can't RUN as fast so I up-sized! Wink

The smallest canopy I've been on was a 120 something or other...I was invited to jump a demo while traveling in Norway a few years back. They loaned me a rig and there was some miscommunication...the 190 was the reserve not the main, I tossed the pilot chute, looked up and said...Oh Shit! Sly


lekstrom10k  (D 3001)

Nov 19, 2011, 8:05 AM
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 My first was a Baby-plane , later with a steering flap attached
2,3 , and4 Para-plane clouds no sliders at first then relined with sliders Lots of cutaways before sliders
A white Unit #26 only color out then {lots of cutaways}
A Comet 300 {288} first jump cutaway never again in 700
A 288 Manta 2000 jumps never cutaway
A Sabre -I- 210 2478 3 cutaways
a Sabre -I-190 400 no cutaways
A Sabre II -210 1300 no cutaways Also jumped A DC-5 -300
252 foil . A Spectre, Pegasus and Strato-star


fossg  (C 16560)

Nov 19, 2011, 10:19 PM
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Comet 300, XL Cloud (270 sq ft) Firebolt 328.... what can I say I'm big, I'm old, I'm hairy, and sometimes I'm grumpy....


bozo  (D 10154)

Nov 20, 2011, 4:44 AM
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Unit 2
Unit 4
DC-5......almost forgot this bus
XL Cloud
LR-288
2 different PD 260s
4 different Mantas
190 Batwing....what a ride
190 first generation Sabre....3 cutaways
Spectre 210......best canopy I ever owned
and dozens and dozens of tandem canopies I never actually owned.....I guess they dont count.


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jimmytavino  (A 3914)

Nov 20, 2011, 6:25 AM
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i'd agree... about "in the field fine tuning".. though i'd guess some sort of REAL testing HAD occured before Ram Airs were sold to the general public...

i was VERY active in jumping then and was blessed to have a wonderful Dz 20 minutes away. we alll followed with interest... some guys had a voracious interest.. as the change to squares began.. In direct contrast to the HOT -To- GO jumpers, who HAdda have one now, were skydivers like me... scaredy cats i guess...who took a "wait & see approach" Like some., i too,, was not in a hurry Fix anything!!. i knew how to spot, was comfortable and pretty capable with a round , and could usually find the landing area/ peas.
But YES alot of jumpers got hurt, Unsure or worse.. many sure as hell scared themselves at one time or another, and most had a cutaway,,or two to show for their efforts.

My 1st square jump and maybe the next 30 were on ParaPlane Clouds. Rings and Ropes. 2 MA 1 pilot chutes from a minis system or a styleMaster rig...ONE Jump on a Strato-Star a few on a Prar Foil 181 i think. (borrowed from pals)
never a malUnimpressed

as for owning Smile
1. heavy weight cloud sliderized bought a custom color, from the original owner
whom i knew , around 1980
2. Para-Foil 252 cause i liked accuracy. Used THAT rig for my nscr diveSlyCool
Great No wind landing. 11 Pm at night..1981
3. Light Weight Cloud '88 or so
4. RW Challenger 240 with split slider, custom colors the ONLY main parachute i ever bought....NEW. 1991
5. Spectre 210 which came in a Jav j5 with a 225 reserve, that i bought pre owned 2000
6. A second RW Challenger 240 because i liked the colors and it was 150 dollarsWink 2003
7. a Spectre 230, d.o.m. august 2009. cause i liked the colors,, even if it WASN't a hundred and fifty bucks...UnimpressedCrazyCoolWink 2011

i still have all of them except the 252Foil
oh and at one point or another i owned a pegasus another lightweight cloud and a stilletto 170, maybe.. none of which i ever jumped, but which i bought from friends, who'd slowed down and which i made available to others who were more active...
piece of advice....." Don't DO that !!!" especially when YOU lay out all the $$$$ to buy the stuff and then waaaiiiittt for payments.,.. from the Buyers!!!cause you just couldn't resist letting them "jump the gear, while they paid for it"..
hahaha leave the gear sales to the pros...
jt


jimjumper  (D 11137)

Nov 20, 2011, 4:00 PM
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My list in order of owning:
Heavyweight Delta Cloud-3 cutaways
Cruiselite XL-0 cutaways
Nimbus-0 cutaways
Nimbus XL-0 cutaways
2 Raiders-0 cutaways
175 Triathlon- 1 cutaway
170 Spectre- 0 cutaways
Tandem Canopies:
Strong 500-0 cutaways
Strong 425-2 cutaways
Strong 400-2 cutaways
Strong 360-0 cutaways


jpjc2000  (D License)

Nov 21, 2011, 4:46 AM
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Interesting thread...

PC
Unit-(kevlar lines)
Unit-(regular lines)
Nova
Nova replacement?
Tomcat 170
Jonathon 150
Jedi 150
Jedi 136
Jedi 136
Jedi 120
Jedi 136
Samuri 136
Samuri 150
Crossfire II 170


piisfish

Nov 21, 2011, 5:42 AM
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in order of appearance :
Sabre1 150 +PD-143R
Safire2 139
Crossfire2 119 + Techno 115
PD-106R
Neos 109
Batwing120
BT50

I sold the Sabre1 and the Crossfire2 (but I would like to get that one back, she is in Sweden AFAIK)


dragon2  (D 101989)

Nov 22, 2011, 11:03 AM
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I've owned + jumped:

252 foil (*)
150 spectre
143 lightning
135 spectre/safire/vengeance (*)
126 lightning
124 pilot
120 triathlon/diablo/fusion (*)
119 safire

First canopy was a spectre 150 @ 75 jumps and a WL of 1.0.
Smallest jumped are 104/107 sqft canopies.

I settled for ~120 sqft as that is fun to fly but gets me back from long spots too.

(*) I still own


BIGUN  (D 23385)

Nov 22, 2011, 2:22 PM
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Hercules 5 cell
Manta 288
Manta 260
Manta 288ZP
Manta 260ZP
Falcon 300
Falcon 265
Falcon 235
Raider 220
Navigator's (tested various sizes for DZ student rigs)
Safire 229
Safire 189
Safire1 169
XFire1 169
Safire2 169
Pilot 168
Precision/Icarus 365

Favorite canopies: Falcon 300, Safire 1 169, P/I 365


(This post was edited by BIGUN on Nov 22, 2011, 2:25 PM)


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Nov 24, 2011, 11:04 AM
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Starting in 1979, I have owned:

Strato-Star made by Eddie Grimm
Strato-Cloud Lite 230
Cruislire 220
Sidewinder 210 7-cell
Shrike 220 9-cell
Sabre 1-150
Sabre 1-170
Sabre 1-150
Sabre 1-135
Nova 150
Stiletto 135
Ariel 150

I have also jumped: a Para-Flite Strato-Cloud with ropes-and-rings
Unit
Pioneer Viking Super-Lite 230
Tutor 300
Manta 290
Skymaster 290
Skymaster 230
Para-Flite DC-5 270
Para-Flite 340
Solo 270
Hornet 190
Sabre 2-210
Diablo 135
Icarus Safire 1- 149 and 135(?)
Crossfire 120
Strong 415 tandem main and reserve
Strong 520
Strong SET 400
Strong SET 366
Pioneer Hi-Lifter 370
PD-360 main
PD-421
Sigma 360
Parachutes de France Galaxy 400
Firebolt 396(?)
etc.


fastphil  (D 5801)

Nov 29, 2011, 8:16 AM
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At the risk of seeming insignificant;

Two (Strato) Flyers and a Firefly.

Now windsurfing sails, that's a different story...


tbrown  (D 6533)

Dec 8, 2011, 9:21 AM
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Cobra 10 (1978)
Viking Superlite (1979)
190 Spectre (2004)
PD193R (2004)
210 Pilot (2004)
188 Pilot (2007)
188 ZPX Pilot (2011)
176 PD Optimum (2011)



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