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Twixtor slo-mo plug in for Vegas

 


skydonkey  (C License)

Nov 17, 2011, 10:14 AM
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Anyone used this in the skydive environment and have any views on it?

Also, any idea on version/price needed

Many thanks

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Nov 17, 2011, 10:38 AM
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It's used a lot, and for low-cost slow motion, it can't be beat. It's overused a lot, and for the low-cost, can't be beat. :-)

Great product, but a lot like a hit song on the radio. Overused, it becomes an annoyance.

skydonkey  (C License)

Nov 17, 2011, 10:58 AM
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Many thanks, Just wanted a validation that it was an OK product and easy to use etc.

and too true......use at the right time, right place and right amount!

linestretch  (D 21060)

Nov 17, 2011, 12:07 PM
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Can this be used on any version of Vegas?

nigelh  (D 101473)

Nov 17, 2011, 12:26 PM
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I was just looking into this, Looks like Vegas Pro 10.0 and above.... I was hoping it worked on Movie Sudio HD Platinum 11

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Nov 17, 2011, 12:44 PM
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In reply to:
I was just looking into this, Looks like Vegas Pro 10.0 and above.... I was hoping it worked on Movie Sudio HD Platinum 11

It does.Wink

Cyrus79  (C License)

Nov 20, 2011, 8:23 AM
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In reply to:
for low-cost slow motion, it can't be beat.
Just a quick search, but is $329.95 low cost for a vegas plugin?? ...or am I at the wrong site?

http://www.revisionfx.com/...ixtor/pricing/#vegas

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Nov 20, 2011, 8:54 AM
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That is the right price but when you start getting into the professional level that is cheap. Some of the stand alone programs that are used in movie and TV production are tens of thousands of dollars for the same basic function (but those look better usually)

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Nov 20, 2011, 9:16 AM
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What Phree said....
Boris Red, for example (another host) is 1K for the baseware. MBSuite, same price.

Neither do slomo as well as Twixtor

skyjumpenfool  (Student 1)

Nov 20, 2011, 9:32 AM
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OK, for us Vegas Newbs... what does it do? Can't you slow down motion in Vegas without this?

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Nov 20, 2011, 9:42 AM
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Vegas does a *very* credible job of slo-mo. But it's not Twixtor.

Hold CTRL while dragging out an event. Right click and choose "Force resample" from the Switches menu.
You can get very nice slo mo up to 40% of original speed to look pretty good. There are other tricks that may be employed, but that's the best one out of the box.

skyjumpenfool  (Student 1)

Nov 20, 2011, 3:13 PM
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I just started using Vegas Studio with my Video Production students, so, I'm asking questions that may be remedial to some.... sorry, but what does the force resample do? And, what does the plug ins do better?

We just started doing green screens and adding effects to "blow things up" The more I do the more I want to learn.Smile

wetbrick

Nov 20, 2011, 3:31 PM
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ive seen some slow-motion where the speed follows a line similar to envolpe controls for volume and pan as apposed to taking a clip and slowing it down to 40% which results in jerky transitions. This can be hidden by buy putting the change from slow-mo to regular speed on a beat in the music track. Are there other programs that provide slow-mo function to a timeline ? $300ish for twixtor seem to be a bit much to smooth out and do slow-mo a little bit better than vegas can


(This post was edited by wetbrick on Nov 20, 2011, 3:34 PM)

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Nov 20, 2011, 3:38 PM
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if it was "a little better" you'd be right. Twixtor is a lot better. It has much better interpolation and resampling algorithms than Vegas does.

You can insert a velocity envelope and force resample.
Force resample demands that Vegas look at every frame (actually at sample level) before rendering it when it's invoked. Vegas does a much better job of slo-mo than any of it's competitors (sans plugins) but it's still not remotely close to Twixtor and other higher end timewarping tools.

wetbrick

Nov 20, 2011, 9:31 PM
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"A little better" may have been an understatement. the velocity envelope i can see being very usefull in tandem video and would be a time saver for time warping in tandem videos. having the ability to see a moment in the the video and slow it down and bring it back to normal speed and change it to dial it in with something as simple as a line is very useful.
The $300 just pushes me away from the table

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Nov 20, 2011, 9:34 PM
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I wouldn't use the velo envelope, but I can see how some folks would appreciate it being there.
I'd split out the exit and slow it down separately. Makes for easy connection to the rest of the freefall, too. Wait...that's exactly how I do it. :-)

wetbrick

Dec 1, 2011, 10:37 PM
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finally bought Vegas Pro. DSE your right once again the velo envelope is not anything like i would have hoped it would be. in terms of ease of use. Back to ctrl and drag.

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Dec 7, 2011, 8:42 PM
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For those using Twixtor, re VisionEffects released an update to the app a couple of weeks ago. it's smoother, and fixes many of the bugs.


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