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granpasc

Oct 17, 2011, 11:47 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/...=channel_video_title

Excessive speed of the Pil is the problem. Therefore, we can fly together when I'm in the corner inside


(This post was edited by granpasc on Oct 17, 2011, 11:51 PM)

Arvoitus  (D 3917)

Oct 18, 2011, 6:48 AM
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Gotta love porters, maybe you should ask the pilot to follow you so you don't have to fly in a carving turn.
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granpasc

Oct 18, 2011, 1:08 PM
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The pilot uses the propeller to slow but it is limited. he needs to go up a little too, but I slowed down even more Crazy

mccordia  (D 94775)

Oct 18, 2011, 1:28 PM
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There have been many cases where Pilatus exactly matches the wingsuit performance. This carving turn works. But there is an overlapping flight envelope somewhere halfway between a steeper wingsuit flight and slow diving where the angles match.

Check this video at 1:50
With a slightly steeper angle, I could have added a bit more speed and we would have roughly matched.

The pilots at Empuria do it all the time, and often actually remain next to the wingsuit the whole way (with a capable pilot).

Also see this nice video from Cedric flying a V3 with a porter (Empuria)
http://vimeo.com/15622773


(This post was edited by mccordia on Oct 18, 2011, 2:48 PM)

Titanium_Gecko  (C 102337)

Oct 18, 2011, 2:28 PM
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Very nice!

Is it wrong to dream about docking on an aeroplane?!!

My attempt from earlier in the season...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiBv7EpgAzU

yeyo  (D 32048)

Oct 18, 2011, 2:40 PM
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I was thinking my computer broke because I couldnt click on your underlined text Pirate hahah

Clicky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiBv7EpgAzU

virgin-burner

Oct 18, 2011, 8:22 PM
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very nice video! Smile

where is this!? awesome scenery too!

piisfish

Oct 19, 2011, 12:57 AM
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In reply to:
where is this!? awesome scenery too!
i would say Black Knights Parachute Centre

edited to add (this is for yeyo's video)


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granpasc

Oct 19, 2011, 3:15 AM
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Vannes in french brittany, well known for cloudy weather Cool


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Also see this nice video from Cedric flying a V3 with a porter (Empuria)
http://vimeo.com/15622773
Ok with a vampire (120kts hor.), I'm not sure to go as fast with ghost3.
I've the feeling i can't down the arms (along body) for increase speed without deflate wings...and lost horizontal speed Crazy

Thanks for your advices, i'll try steeper angle next time.


(This post was edited by granpasc on Oct 19, 2011, 3:16 AM)

piisfish

Oct 19, 2011, 3:46 AM
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I've the feeling i can't down the arms (along body) for increase speed without deflate wings...and lost horizontal speed Crazy
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?? Késako ??

Arvoitus  (D 3917)

Oct 19, 2011, 3:59 AM
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In reply to:
The pilots at Empuria do it all the time, and often actually remain next to the wingsuit the whole way (with a capable pilot).

Last time I was there I noticed that only one of the Porter pilots would fly with you. The other pilot on duty at that time would just immediately leave as soon as you'd exit where as the other pilot would come fly with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmjJynqc90E

I was actually somewhat bummed out in freefall as I was thinking that I should've worn my camera forwards as I would've gotten some nice footage of the plane flying besides me but it turned out nice anyway.

Titanium_Gecko  (C 102337)

Oct 19, 2011, 6:24 AM
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Cheers, Yeyo. Blush

And to answer the other question: Yes, it was Black Knights in the UK with the tower of Blackpool pleasure beach to the south and Heysham 1 & 2 Nuclear Power Stations in the north - Cool.

My camera set-up is a bit better now and fly a Verso inseatd of an Expert so hope to get some closer footage next time.

granpasc

Oct 19, 2011, 3:31 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
I've the feeling i can't down the arms (along body) for increase speed without deflate wings...and lost horizontal speed Crazy
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?? Késako ??

down the arms ...as when standing.

With this move (the drag decrease) i felt speed up with my prodigy. with the ghost3 wings, connected between legs and arms, i feel foils deflate and me falling. Mad

packing_jarrett  (D License)

Oct 19, 2011, 3:52 PM
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about 50 seconds in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPPcCiaXAXA

llloyd  (C License)

Oct 20, 2011, 3:32 AM
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My camera set-up is a bit better now and fly a Verso inseatd of an Expert so hope to get some closer footage next time.

I've got a funny feeling you're going to enjoy this weekend Ross, now our pilot's back in his favourite Porter Angelic

See you Saturday

mccordia  (D 94775)

Oct 20, 2011, 9:39 AM
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Do mind that ANY flying with an airplane should be done (IF you have the skills) with the same direction. Similar to flocking rules.

You don't want to have something like this end up a few cm closer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cuIZ5Yr51w

The picture attached is one I got from a post that dissapeared on dz.com a while back. No clue where its from, but edited out the callsign from the airplane. But it shows how easy these 'cool' moments can end up in 'someone hitting the plane/propellor'.

If you can't fly next to another person with the proper skill and accuracy needed, than don't try and do it with a metal thing 10 times the size, and double the speed.
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Titanium_Gecko  (C 102337)

Oct 20, 2011, 12:50 PM
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Fair point well made, Mr J!

Thanks,
Ross

BenediktDE

Oct 22, 2011, 3:21 AM
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You don't want to have something like this end up a few cm closer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cuIZ5Yr51w

Very true! I was on that load and the jumper was still shaking after landing. But he was not the one to fly towards the plane. He was flying straight and the porter pilot buzzed him getting closer every jump...

granpasc

Oct 22, 2011, 4:46 AM
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If you can't fly next to another person with the proper skill and accuracy needed, than don't try and do it with a metal thing 10 times the size, and double the speed.

You said "more closer" ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7TugC-7gf8

Angelic

Premier cpoxon  (D 11665)
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Oct 24, 2011, 6:21 AM
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No clue where its from, but edited out the callsign from the airplane

With that paint job, it's very apparent where it is from! Especially after a recent well-publicised spin video. It's not a Porter. Wink


(This post was edited by cpoxon on Oct 24, 2011, 6:23 AM)


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