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shah269  (A 59581)

Aug 24, 2011, 9:02 AM
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AAD or no AAD....that is the question.
These things really hold their value so well!
$1,400 new Cypress or $1,100 two year old used, never fired.

Well there are always those Argusus's things....

But I do need A suit...tired of "Barrowing"

Thoughts?


DaVinciflies

Aug 24, 2011, 9:08 AM
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There are lots of threads about the pros and cons of AADs.

On the whole they are more likely to save your life than to cause you a problem.

How confident are you of your ability to remain conscious and complete your EPs?

Barrowing???


skydiver604

Aug 24, 2011, 9:50 AM
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I just spent $1480.00 Can for a Vigil 2. best money I ever spent,,,besides that considering my life insurance doesn't cover skydiving or aviation related activities the wife won't let me jump without one

Laugh


chuckakers  (D 10855)

Aug 24, 2011, 10:08 AM
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In reply to:
But I do need A suit...tired of "Barrowing"

Most of your questions and thoughts on DZ.com have seemed pretty reasonable, but debating on whether to spend your money on a jumpsuit before an AAD is putting you dangerously close to the New-age Skydiving Dumbass zone.

(No moderators, that wasn't a personal attack. "New-age Skydiving Dumbass" is an actual category of skydiver and "the zone" is where they hang out when they sign on to dz.com)


shah269  (A 59581)

Aug 24, 2011, 10:11 AM
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Yeah I know a very serious dumb ass thought....
Ho hum....I guess I need to get an AAD ASAP.
I'm at jump 50 and right about now people say stuff gets dangerous.

I'll check out th eclassifieds. Or maybe buy new...


antibac  (C License)

Aug 24, 2011, 10:25 AM
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You can actually choose? In my country you have to have AAD to be able to jump.


GLIDEANGLE  (D 30292)

Aug 24, 2011, 11:28 AM
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In USA, the only jumps which require an AAD by LAW are tandems.

The USPA basic requirements specify that all students must use an AAD. That is not a legal requirement.


hcsvader  (E 2952)

Aug 24, 2011, 11:31 AM
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Best argument for spending the money on an AAD was when someone said
"I would be really pissed if I went in and still had $1400 in the bank"


brnnncrzy77  (Student)

Aug 24, 2011, 11:55 AM
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I noticed a guy at my DZ that jumps without a helmet that doesn't use an AAD. Doesn't seem like a smart thing to do if you ask me.


shah269  (A 59581)

Aug 24, 2011, 12:02 PM
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In reply to:
"I would be really pissed if I went in and still had $1400 in the bank"
Well off to buy a first hand AAD and a secon hand flight suit with booties Wink


hcsvader  (E 2952)

Aug 24, 2011, 12:09 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
"I would be really pissed if I went in and still had $1400 in the bank"
Well off to buy a first hand AAD and a secon hand flight suit with booties Wink
Glad you agree, I thought it was a pretty good way of looking at it.

Hell, you might as well put it on your credit card, that way if you get killed in a canopy collision or doing a low turn you still win... kind of Tongue


Morrison79  (C 37447)

Aug 24, 2011, 12:15 PM
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Buy a used AAD and a suit!


shah269  (A 59581)

Aug 24, 2011, 12:28 PM
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Glad you agree, I thought it was a pretty good way of looking at it.

Hell, you might as well put it on your credit card, that way if you get killed in a canopy collision or doing a low turn you still win... kind of Tongue
OK that there is smart!

I am looking as used and well..they are $1,100 a pop. And you can't put it on credit.

Can't even seem to find a second hand suit either!
WTF gives! All you freaking free flyers!


councilman24  (D 8631)

Aug 24, 2011, 12:28 PM
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Considering that a whole LOT, read almost all if a frap hat isn't a helmet, of skydivers did that prior to 1993, well maybe it's not so bad. In those days skydivers were killed in free fall, not under an open and functioning canopy.Crazy

Is it the best choice today? Maybe not but it's a valid choice if DZ and local laws allow.


Calvin19  (D 29712)

Aug 24, 2011, 1:06 PM
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yes


JohnMitchell  (D 6462)

Aug 24, 2011, 3:29 PM
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In reply to:
Best argument for spending the money on an AAD was when someone said
"I would be really pissed if I went in and still had $1400 in the bank"
When I got an AAD in the 90's and my DZO asked why, that's what I said except it was $1200 then. Wink


JohnMitchell  (D 6462)

Aug 24, 2011, 3:32 PM
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In reply to:
On the whole they are more likely to save your life than to cause you a problem.

How confident are you of your ability to remain conscious and complete your EPs?
The bold face says it all. No one has a crystal ball in this sport. I'm very confident in my abilities to do EP's. I'm pretty sure I won't get knocked out on most loads. But I still use an AAD.Smile

Besides, we're all confident in our abilities, maybe more so than we should be. Wink


Squeak  (E 1313)

Aug 24, 2011, 4:25 PM
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i think YOU really really NEED one


Ron

Aug 24, 2011, 5:19 PM
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Get an AAD.

Then don't make dumb jumps because you have one.


VTmotoMike08  (D 30399)

Aug 24, 2011, 5:42 PM
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Get an AAD. If it's a cypress, there is an incredible used market for the things and you can sell it for more than half the value when it has about half the life yet. I recently sold an expert cypres with 22 months left on it for $475! (cypres value calculator said is was worth around $320 if I remember correctly). I had several offers at that price, probably could have gotten more.

So yes, the used AAD market is extremely competitive. Mine sold overnight on the classifieds here. If someone is foolish enough to sell you a cypres at the rate shown on the value calculator, buy it up with no questions asked and resell that thing for a profit!


danornan  (D 11308)

Aug 24, 2011, 7:04 PM
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Question: If you really really needed an AAD and could make the decision as to when to buy it, what would you pay for it?

Answer: You would give everything you have and go out and borrow more!

Well, you can't buy it right before you need it so this is about as close as it will probably get..... and you don't have to borrow more.


shah269  (A 59581)

Aug 25, 2011, 7:46 AM
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OK Ok ok....I got one!
Darn it guys! I wanted to be "bad ass"

Well...I guess the suit will have to wait....why are all you freaking guys skinny or short or worse...all of you freaking free fly!
A brother can't find a nice second had Bev suit!


theonlyski  (D License)

Aug 25, 2011, 1:30 PM
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OK Ok ok....I got one!
Darn it guys! I wanted to be "bad ass"

Well...I guess the suit will have to wait....why are all you freaking guys skinny or short or worse...all of you freaking free fly!
A brother can't find a nice second had Bev suit!

I'm 5' 10", 175 lbs and only belly fly. Tongue


Squeak  (E 1313)

Aug 25, 2011, 5:57 PM
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Well...I guess the suit will have to wait....why are all you freaking guys skinny or short or worse...all of you freaking free fly!
A brother can't find a nice second had Bev suit!
I'm sure there's a Hot Bod suit out there to fit you.


crotalus01  (B 28932)

Aug 25, 2011, 8:27 PM
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There are lots of good suits out there, you shouldn't limit yourself to just a Bev suit...


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