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Russian CRW brake handles on shoulders

 


ruthers  (D 4468)

May 16, 2011, 11:47 PM
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I've heard about and seen photos of russian CRW team members with their brake handles stowed on the shoulders, next to the 3 ring releases.

Presumably because this allows the jumper to have brakes in hand immediately after pitching and before the risers come up.

does anyone know how the brake stows are set up? Is there something on the riser to hook a stow loop on, or is the stow function at the shoulders?


Hellis

May 17, 2011, 12:48 AM
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Could it be risers from one of these rigs?
http://www.flyyourbody.com/...p/base-jump-rig.html


CaTo  (D 81811)

May 17, 2011, 2:49 AM
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In reply to:
I've heard about and seen photos of russian CRW team members with their brake handles stowed on the shoulders, next to the 3 ring releases.

Presumably because this allows the jumper to have brakes in hand immediately after pitching and before the risers come up.

does anyone know how the brake stows are set up? Is there something on the riser to hook a stow loop on, or is the stow function at the shoulders?

we (CF CaTo) use this concept also with our CF-Storms, and it works. The toggles are clicked on two press-studs on the main-lift cover (?not sure if this is official name). The setup is such that the steeringlines are in half-brake. So no brake-stows needed.
After opening (pull-out) we immediatly go for the toggles and are able to steer and correct the opening canopy as needed. If we miss grabbing the toggles, the force on the press-studs during opening is too high to keep, so they will release. (most important rule: if you miss one, let go of the other :-)
The smaller the canopy (and higher wingload) the more violent a bad opening can be, and this setup really helps to prevent that (we can correct a beginning twist or 180 during opening)


CaTo  (D 81811)

May 18, 2011, 5:45 AM
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picture of the setup


(This post was edited by CaTo on May 18, 2011, 5:47 AM)
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Nelyubin  (D 18617)

May 27, 2011, 9:59 AM
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ruthers  (D 4468)

May 31, 2011, 5:12 PM
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thanks for the info.


Divalent  (C 40494)

Jun 1, 2011, 3:23 PM
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dang, from the expression on the faces of everyone in the photo, you'd think something really bad just happened. (Like, their jump plane just crashed.)


rpersi  (D 22042)

Jun 1, 2011, 3:47 PM
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dang, from the expression on the faces of everyone in the photo, you'd think something really bad just happened. (Like, their jump plane just crashed.)

...or the bar just announced they ran out of vodka!


JohnnyMarko

Jun 1, 2011, 5:52 PM
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dang, from the expression on the faces of everyone in the photo, you'd think something really bad just happened. (Like, their jump plane just crashed.)

"We no smile until jump be success"


GLIDEANGLE  (D 30292)

Jun 2, 2011, 7:43 AM
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How does this arrangement affect cutting away the canopy?


ScoobieDoo  (D 24795)

Jun 2, 2011, 10:04 PM
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according to cato post 3/10, the brakes release if you don't get to them before opening shock. They use these to release brakes and steer their opening canopy to perfect on heading.
The question would really be what kind of mal is it? Bag lock prob. won't release brakes? would line twist, meaning you missed releasing both brakes before canopy line twisted.
Would these(prob but gonna ask) brakes system release on a baglock cut-away (meaning they didn't release during the baglock and I just pulled silver)? I know some crewdogs still use bags and not tail pockets so thats the question I have.


(This post was edited by ScoobieDoo on Jun 2, 2011, 10:08 PM)


Premier faulknerwn  (D 17441)
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Jun 3, 2011, 6:29 AM
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I truly suspect that anyone hard core enough to be putting their brakes on their main lift web wouldn't be using a bag on their canopy :-) Its a very rare competitor who uses a dbag..


CaTo  (D 81811)

Jun 5, 2011, 6:17 AM
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completely right: we do not use a bag, but a tail pocket, so no worries about bag-locks Cool


Zymurdoo  (D 16833)

Jun 5, 2011, 7:22 AM
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D Bags are for suckers Tongue


CaTo  (D 81811)

Jun 5, 2011, 11:02 AM
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and to see it in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GWnraTSyqA
short clip made using our belly-cam



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