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xaos 21 vs 27

 


bakingjason  (C 1730)

Apr 1, 2010, 8:57 AM
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doing a bit of research on the xaos as would like to buy one at some point in the future. iv heard 21 is better for freestyle as is 7 cell, other than that can any xaos flyers give me some input. shot


stevo  (D 28946)

Apr 1, 2010, 3:33 PM
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well, one obvious difference is pack volume and since smaller rigs are way,way cooler this should be considered. i have a 27 cell and love the openings, some times i get a slow 90 turn on opening but most are on heading, never had line twists or chopped in 600 or so jumps on a Xaos27(dozens on a velo and 3 mals), but i've heard the 21 opens even better. next is the 27 is going to be a more rigid wing. not sure how much more performance you'll actually see from that. that's my .02


Martini  (D 23756)

Apr 1, 2010, 8:36 PM
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Re: [bakingjason] xaos 21 vs 27 [In reply to] Can't Post

What is freestyle?


phoenixlpr  (D 3049)

Apr 2, 2010, 4:40 AM
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In reply to:
What is freestyle?
All kind of nasty tricks on roll out.


Martini  (D 23756)

Apr 3, 2010, 10:23 PM
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Re: [bakingjason] xaos 21 vs 27 [In reply to] Can't Post

OK, I'm not super qualified to answer here but I have 250 jumps on my 21-98 at 2:1 and probably 25 on a 27-94. If I could do it again I'd get the 27, it's way more rigid, turns much faster, is trimmed flatter and flies faster. The 21 definitely opens sweeter though. All just my impressions from a few years ago, I haven't jumped my 21 for a couple of years as it's not really an ideal wingsuit canopy.


980  (D 980)

Apr 22, 2010, 10:14 AM
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Re: [Martini] xaos 21 vs 27 [In reply to] Can't Post

eh?

The only reason to get the 21 over the 27 is because it is a slightly better wingsuit canopy.

I've had 21-100 for around 400 jumps, many of which in a V2, now I have 27-94 and 27-86. I happily jump my 27-94 with my V3.

YMMV I guess


Martini  (D 23756)

Apr 22, 2010, 8:48 PM
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Re: [980] xaos 21 vs 27 [In reply to] Can't Post

I decided a while back to use a conservative canopy for wingsuit, I jump a Sabre 120 or 107. Never had a problem with the Xaos-21 but could see it coming. Also I used to throw extremely low with the V-2/Sabre combo, the Xaos is a poor choice there. Since I don't throw low (skydiving) anymore I've considered using the Xaos again since it's so much fun to fly, I'll have to be much more current before I go there though. BTW I'm sure you're aware that most people consider a crossbraced canopy to be inappropriate for wingsuiting, great that you're having good results with the 21 and 27.



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