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Bowie  (C 1874)

Feb 2, 2010, 10:03 AM
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Does anyone have more info on the lane dimensions.
I assume we are going to change the ground course markers again again. "the extra new zone.."


New Point spreas in Accuracy including 1 more Scoring zone:

1. Water gate: 21
2. Water gate: 5
3. Water gate: 8
4. Water gate: 16

Zero Zone

1. Scoring Zone: 11
2. 19
3. 27
4. 34
5. 41
6. Zone 46, center 50
7. Zone -17
8. Zone -36


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Feb 2, 2010, 11:26 AM
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Here's what I've been given.


Ian
Attachments: NEW_ZONE_ACC_2.jpg (53.5 KB)


piahenzi  (D 24484)

Feb 2, 2010, 12:15 PM
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AAAAAK!!!! Crazy ....
Here we go again... I feel a looooooong briefing coming on at the pond. I guess we'll meet up at 7 AM ??


WesDes  (B 29595)

Feb 2, 2010, 1:51 PM
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This is what I heard is proposed for 2011. Al's gonna need some more noodles.
Attachments: 2011 ZONE ACC.jpg (139 KB)


AggieDave  (D License)

Feb 2, 2010, 4:27 PM
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Wow. I guess they felt bad after G-dub had a perfect run!

This will be another interesting change to train for. Have we had two years in a row of the same rules in ZA?


frost  (D 25011)

Feb 3, 2010, 6:03 AM
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Wow. I guess they felt bad after G-dub had a perfect run!

This will be another interesting change to train for. Have we had two years in a row of the same rules in ZA?
We all felt bad. It was like: "Hey man, great job!! That was awesome!! ... now our scores are fucked, you fuck!!!" Laugh

But as far as "training for it" ... We all talked about the last years change, how it would affect things... But it's just a change in the rule regarding scoring... is it really affecting anything in the way you are going to swoop? The goal is still the same, the distance of the course is still the same... Simple concept - swoop all gates, land standing up on the middle, that's it. Sounds easy. Sly What i am saying is - that's what you have to train for, not for a change in the rules.


(This post was edited by frost on Feb 3, 2010, 6:05 AM)


berchtoldaj  (D License)

Feb 3, 2010, 12:35 PM
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the lines may be moved around, but the high score is almost in the same place. with that logic you better get out there and train the new speed calcuation as well.

I'm gonna try and get the spreadsheets updated for the meet this weekend in z-hills. I'm gonna need a hand measuring out and marking the new accuracy zones on friday if someone can help.


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Feb 3, 2010, 12:47 PM
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Oh sweet - planning on running the new ZA?

Awesome!


skyshimas  (D 29263)

Feb 3, 2010, 1:22 PM
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which diagram will be used out of the two attached here so far? The second one has 2 zones to get a perfect score now that's interesting. What everyone thinks about this set up with 2 possibilities for a perfect score?


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Feb 3, 2010, 1:27 PM
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The first one since it matches Wuzi's description.

The 2nd one is definitely not right Smile


(This post was edited by ianmdrennan on Feb 3, 2010, 1:27 PM)


AggieDave  (D License)

Feb 3, 2010, 3:46 PM
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Quote:
with that logic you better get out there and train the new speed calcuation as well.

Al, you got me this time.Laugh


rhys  (D 95)

Feb 3, 2010, 8:18 PM
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AAAAAK!!!! Crazy ....
Here we go again... I feel a looooooong briefing coming on at the pond. I guess we'll meet up at 7 AM ??

looks pretty simple to me?

Same method of performing the round but with different scoring. With that scoring system I would have got much more respectable results in my last comp in the accuracy rounds, but so would everyone else I suppose?


rhys  (D 95)

Feb 3, 2010, 8:21 PM
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In reply to:
This is what I heard is proposed for 2011. Al's gonna need some more noodles.

wow, didn't see that one yet, that is way too complex.


superstu  (D License)

Mar 23, 2010, 4:31 PM
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anybody have any new news regarding the possible rule changes to speed and accuracy?


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Mar 23, 2010, 5:28 PM
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Stu,

My post above is the ZA course.

Speed is now 5/3 instead of squared.

Blues
Ian


superstu  (D License)

Mar 23, 2010, 6:18 PM
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that's confirmed?


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Mar 23, 2010, 7:15 PM
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Yes. I believe the wording is being finalized, but the rules are confirmed for change.


superstu  (D License)

Mar 23, 2010, 7:39 PM
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cool.
p.s. you're an ass jockey


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Mar 23, 2010, 7:40 PM
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Only when I'm riding your mom......


aykay  (E License)

Mar 23, 2010, 8:11 PM
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In reply to:
Stu,

My post above is the ZA course.

Speed is now 5/3 instead of squared.

Blues
Ian

What do you mean here? Are you talking about the scoring?


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Mar 24, 2010, 6:38 AM
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Yes. Previously the raw speed scores were squared, and then calculated as a percentage of the best score.

Now the scores are multiplied by 5, divided by 3, and then calculated as a percentage of the best score.

Blues,
Ian


morris

Mar 24, 2010, 10:26 PM
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"Now the scores are multiplied by 5, divided by 3, and then calculated as a percentage of the best score."
Are you sure about this? Because this wouldn┤t make sense at all, think about it... can you find the mistake...?


jenkincb00  (D 26959)

Mar 25, 2010, 6:57 AM
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its not taking into account the curviture of the earth nor the gravitational pull of the moon...wtf Shocked


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Mar 25, 2010, 8:44 AM
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The RAW scores are now multiplied by 1.666666666666667 instead of squared.
Tongue


jakee  (C License)

Mar 26, 2010, 4:33 PM
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In reply to:
"Now the scores are multiplied by 5, divided by 3, and then calculated as a percentage of the best score."
Are you sure about this? Because this wouldn┤t make sense at all, think about it... can you find the mistake...?

"Well, it's real simple: basically, there's three grabbers, three taggers, five twig-runners, and the player at whack-bat. The center-tagger lights the pine-cone and chucks it over the basket, and the whack-batter tries to hit the cedar-stick off the cross-rock. Then the twig-runners dash back and forth until the pine-cone burns out, and the umpire calls "hot box". Finally, at the end you count up however many score-downs it adds up to and divide that by nine."


But yeah, the maths as described does not appear to make sense.


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