Nov 17, 2009, 7:13 PM
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kill a tandem student?
4:50 - dump in place while the tandem pair is still sniveling right above you. Probably not a problem....unless they cut away, of course.
6:13 - do a little tandem CReW. Just an end cell bump to add some excitement for the carnival riders that didn't pay for the added risk, nor understand it.
6:57 - such irony in the soundtrack, but still the best darn backwards tandem dock I've ever seen.
Nov 17, 2009, 8:44 PM
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Bonus points for NOT getting one frame of footage of what had to be a sweet wingover after the tandem left the Otter. With the sun low in the sky to boot, those would have been some nice pics.
I also liked when he got his top mounted camera stuck in his slider down near the ground.
The really scary part about all the hijinx is that you can tell that wasn't the first time they put on that show. That routine probably happens on a pretty regular basis, which means that at least two TIs, one camera guy, a DZO and an S&TA all seem to think it's ok.
Nov 18, 2009, 5:33 AM
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Whats a whuffo doing in the landing area in the first place?
Properly briefed and properly supervised spectators are not a problem, (but of course it appears that neither were true on this landing).
The "supervisor" must "read" a spectator just like an instructor must read a student, and anticipate what they might do, that is, stand there quietly, or go running off.
Most DZ's are not willing to do this (or perhaps do not have time), so it is easier to just say, "no spectators in the landing area."
(Same with observers, too, as we have unfortunately learned recently.)
Nov 18, 2009, 5:40 AM
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The really scary part about all the hijinx is that you can tell that wasn't the first time they put on that show. That routine probably happens on a pretty regular basis, which means that at least two TIs, one camera guy, a DZO and an S&TA all seem to think it's ok.
Nov 18, 2009, 6:27 AM
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The really scary part about all the hijinx is that you can tell that wasn't the first time they put on that show. That routine probably happens on a pretty regular basis, which means that at least two TIs, one camera guy, a DZO and an S&TA all seem to think it's ok.
Nov 18, 2009, 6:31 AM
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Ill give credit where its due, thats some fucking nice canopy skills,
Don't be fooled. None of that takes anything more than basic canopy flying skills. The TIs are doing nothing but sitting there, and the camera guy is just docking on a stable base.
It's the RW equivilant of docking on a coach laying a stable base. Might look cool to a bystander, but a skydiver knows that it's nothing special.
Nov 18, 2009, 9:15 AM
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Properly briefed and properly supervised spectators are not a problem.
Other than the fact that they usually haven't signed the waiver. If there is a spectator standing near my cameraflyer they will miss the landing shot as I will land away.
Nov 18, 2009, 9:38 AM
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Other than the fact that they usually haven't signed the waiver. If there is a spectator standing near my cameraflyer they will miss the landing shot as I will land away.
Yep, they can be there, but there are limitations. It would seem that a good place for them is to be well in back of the video person, where that can zoom in to get just the student landing, or zoom out to include the video person.
Nov 18, 2009, 10:54 AM
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Whats a whuffo doing in the landing area in the first place?
Properly leashed, briefed and properly supervised spectators are not a problem, (but of course it appears that neither were true on this landing).
The "supervisor" must "read" a spectator just like an instructor must read a student, and anticipate what they might do, that is, stand there quietly, or go running off.
Most DZ's are not willing to do this (or perhaps do not have time), so it is easier to just say, "no spectators in the landing area."
(Same with observers, too, as we have unfortunately learned recently.)
Fixed it for you.
Half kidding.
I keep thinking "nice flying" when watching these videos. While screaming inwardly "not on a bloody tandem you [unspeakable]."
Nov 18, 2009, 11:30 AM
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Did anyone bother to explain WHY tandem canopy formations were banned back in the mid-1980s?
I forget whether it was the first tandem fatality or the second, but a clumsy canopy dock followed by a wrap - followed by another mistake ... killed a tandem pair and that was why tandem canopy formations were banned a quarter century ago!
Nov 18, 2009, 1:32 PM
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Did anyone bother to explain WHY tandem canopy formations were banned back in the mid-1980s?
I forget whether it was the first tandem fatality or the second, but a clumsy canopy dock followed by a wrap - followed by another mistake ... killed a tandem pair and that was why tandem canopy formations were banned a quarter century ago!
Rob Warner Strong Tandem Examiner
I'm waiting to see a post from one of the people in the video - or any of the many like it I found easily on youtube. Maybe one of these folks...like the Tandem Instructor/Examiner, maybe.