Aug 14, 2009, 1:10 PM
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All sail JVX
Does anyone know if the fabric of the sail cloth offered by icarus has changed?
I recently picked up a new JVX 79 and it packs up unbeleviable large. I am talking about a 170 or so!
I had previously borrowed a mates all sail (made a few years ago) and put a handful of jumps on it in my container. With that canopy, it would pack up something like a 135-150 and was not a drama to pack in an OJK.
Packing this one up I end up with it overfilling the bag by at least 2-3 inches!
So I am wondering if it will age a bit and have a smaller pack volume? Or is just that the sail material is now different and the volume has jumped up again?
I have been jumping the newer sail material for about 300 jumps and I am packing an all sail 69 in a vector 316 as a back up rig, but my main rig is a mirage mx and I dont have any problem with the fit, they are just on the tight side in my vector, but comfortable with my mirage.....
Have now got the 79 into a 170ish bag. Seems to go okay, now all I need to do is get a big container! I borrowed an old 79 that fit into an OJK bag as a comparison.
The canopy flies like a dream but packs like a nightmare!
I just jumped an all sail JVX for the first time the other day, was amazed at the difference and even checked the linesets for a comparison, I have a JVXZP79 and the difference is astounding, there is no difference whatsoever in the design or lineset but the flight charactaristics were so different with just a change in material, it was kinda spooky!
I have Vector V304 and the ZP79 is kinda mushy in there, a reasonable fit but a soft packjob. We put the Allsail79 (older sailcloth) in the tray in a dbag and it closed in the container quite well, I'm planning on getting a all sail74(2.5p/sqf) and using it in my V304 but now I'm gonna double check...
Does anyone have a 70 something all sailJVX in a vector? I have seen the new material feels really nice, not dry like the old stuff, but real crispy too, it seems kinda like the same stuff but with a zp silicone type finish, and made in New Zealand too!
(This post was edited by rhys on Jan 23, 2010, 8:38 PM)
New sail is different from the old sail cloth. It will start out much bulkier.
On the old sail I have about 50 jumps (canopy probably had 500-600 jumps) - canopy would fit in a 135 bag, tight but no problems. New sail started out even more massive, but the volume seems to be settling down as the canopy ages. Over the last 100-200 jumps mine is getting easier to pack and I am shrinking the bag to suit.
Edit to add:
The canopy flies incredibly well! I love it; the power on the rears is amazing. I am using this as my main canopy (and for comp). I think it is worth the pack volume!
(This post was edited by Jiggs on Jan 24, 2010, 3:48 PM)
When I was jumping a jvx, I was able to pack an all sail jvx69 with the new sail material in a v316 and it was a snug fit, but last I heard the newest sail material isnt being sold yet, due to being put through testing. I would say you could fit the all sail jvx75 in a v319, but dont expect it to be fun everytime you go to pack.