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mountainman  (A License)

Aug 22, 2001, 5:32 PM
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Hey all!! I am asking all mid-west (ohio/indiana/whatever) area jumpers if your DZ is going to be offering any live water training in the near future. Laura and I are planning on doing a beach jump next spring, but we need to have B license requirements and that involves live water training.

If you know of anything, PLEASE let me know!! Thank you!!Smile

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ramon  (D 26115)

Aug 23, 2001, 5:44 AM
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Hey, Go to any DZ that has a swimming pool and you can probably do it on the spot.

If there are none in your area (poor thing) I guess you need to organize somehting

good luck

ramon.





mountainman  (A License)

Aug 23, 2001, 10:13 AM
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Any SDC jumpers able to ask around there for me?? I may be able to head there the weekend after Richmond. Thanks!

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JumpHog  (D 25314)

Aug 23, 2001, 10:34 AM
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The mid-west is not the best place to readily find water training. I live in Kansas and have been calling DZ's around here for the past year trying to find someone who is doing water training. Believe me, it is not easy. That is why I have over 600 jumps and an A license. Good luck.

Paul Eriksmoen
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chicagoskydiver  (B 24599)

Aug 23, 2001, 11:55 AM
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I just recently did my live water training at Skydive Illinois in Morris, near SDC, at a local hotel swimming pool. I'm not sure when they will offer it again, but you can call them at 800-freefall to find out. I'm sure SDC offers it frequently also, maybe you could email Roger at Roger@skydivechicago.com to find out.

Hackey


mountainman  (A License)

Aug 23, 2001, 12:02 PM
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have over 600 jumps and an A license
Damn!! Once you get your water training, you'll be able to get your PRO, TM, and AFF ratings. Muhaha!!!

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mountainman  (A License)

Aug 23, 2001, 1:39 PM
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Also, how long does H2O training take?? Just wondering so I know how feasable this will be.

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Slowfaller  (A 38080)

Aug 23, 2001, 2:59 PM
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I just called SDC for ya and they said the guy is not there today but she thinks the next one is in September. I can try tomorrow for you.

CHris

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Aviatrr  (D 27349)

Aug 23, 2001, 3:12 PM
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Also, how long does H2O training take?? Just wondering so I know how feasable this will be.
It all depends on the instructor.. My water training lasted about 3 hours - but mine was taught by an ex navy rescue swimmer.. He taught us a hell of a lot more than the minimum required.. Other than just water landings, he taught us extended water survival, rescue techniques(in case you go in the water to save somebody that has landed there), etc.. I have taken SCUBA rescue diver training, and I still learned quite a bit from this guy.. I've seen it take as little as 10 minutes.. I jump near water(ocean, lakes, rivers, and swamps) so I want to know everything I can be taught..

Mike



mountainman  (A License)

Aug 23, 2001, 3:19 PM
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I just called SDC for ya and they said the guy is not there today but she thinks the next one is in September. I can try tomorrow for you.
That would be awesome, slow!! I'll surely keep my eye on this thread for what you find out. Thanks again!!

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My water training lasted about 3 hours ...I've seen it take as little as 10 minutes
I want to learn enough to be safe, but since we dont jump anywhere near water, I dont think that 3 hrs is necessary. However, if the trainer wants to, I'll surely listen to everything he wants to teach. Can't be TOO careful. Smile

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tigra  (C 27417)

Aug 23, 2001, 5:39 PM
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SDC has a pond, so when they do the water training, that's where they do it. Glenn is the S&TA and he usually runs it. If I'm not mistaken, he just did water training last month. But if there is enough interest, I'm sure he would do it again before the summer is over. At least he doesn't need to rent out a pool, but he still needs to coordinate staff and such, and he charges a small fee for that. Call him or email him- I'm sure he'll give you all the details and let you know when he is planning the next training.

After a short briefing, what they usually do is have you put on an old harness, jump off the deck into the pond, and throw a large canopy over you. The object is to get out from under the canopy and out of the harness before you drown. At least they don't make you do it in your own gear!

For the beach jumps, also work on your accuracy, and you will probably need a flotation device for your rig.



FallinWoman  (C 32269)

Aug 23, 2001, 5:42 PM
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I know that Archway Skydiving Center in Vandalia, IL is offering water training a couple of times coming up.
They do it on Sunday mornings at the hotel pool.

I think that one of the dates in Sept 8. I am not sure of the other. Call them at 1-800-283-JUMP!

Blue skies,
Anne



mountainman  (A License)

Aug 23, 2001, 8:30 PM
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Thanks for the info! I just emailed him for some more details, so hopefully he'll get back to me. Sounds pretty crappy to get thrown in with a harness and then a chute. Damn.....I'm gonna have nightmares tonight crawling through my blankets! ahahhaSmile

Thanks again!!

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FallingMarc  (B 25542)

Aug 23, 2001, 9:02 PM
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The object is to get out from under the canopy and out of the harness before you drown.
What happens if you end up drowning? Do they make you try again?

Sorry I'm in a wierd mood today... it's been too long since I jumped!

Marc



DZBone  (D 14358)

Aug 23, 2001, 9:09 PM
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What happens if you end up drowning? Do they make you try again?
Ever notice that there are far fewer 'B' license holders out there than 'A'? Think about it.




Slowfaller  (A 38080)

Aug 24, 2001, 8:50 AM
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Hey moutainmain, do you still want me to call SDC for you? Or did Glen email you back....let me know.

CHris

"..and your hands and knees felt cold and wet on the grass beneth." - modest mouse


wingnut  (D 27688)

Aug 25, 2001, 10:36 AM
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mountainman,

call up aerohio,in rittman ohio. they helped me out and should have another class here in the fall or early spring. they go to a pool near akron and it only cost like $10. they hooked me up when i asked em about it. great bunch of people at that dz!!!!!

<wingnut>
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mountainman  (A License)

Aug 25, 2001, 9:03 PM
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Hey Slowfaller!! If you can find out when and where some training would be for SDC, I would be very interested. Thanks a lot!!

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Slowfaller  (A 38080)

Aug 27, 2001, 10:42 AM
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After talking to Glen at SDC I found out that there is no planned live water training in the works but he wants to do one in September. All he could tell me is to keep an eye on their web site. www.skydivechicago.com. Hope that helps buddy.

Peace


CHris

"..and your hands and knees felt cold and wet on the grass beneth." - modest mouse


mwthomsen  (C 31605)

Aug 27, 2001, 12:11 PM
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Quantum Leap in Sullivan MO offers water training every labor day and memorial day weekend. I believe they offer it on saturday evening at a hotel pool. They didn't charge a fee, and had pizza and beer. Side note they have an Otter and on every load during Labor and Memorial weekend an experienced jumper wins a free jump. 1-800-stl-jump

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mountainman  (A License)

Aug 27, 2001, 3:14 PM
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Thanks for talking to him, bro!! I will certainly keep an eye on it because we have to have it before going on our vacation in the spring and the winter will prolly be a bit cold for it.

Thanks again!!

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Slowfaller  (A 38080)

Aug 27, 2001, 3:55 PM
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Hey MM,

If and when you do make it down there besure to have manifest page me....I plan on jumping throught the winter (20f and up) so I'll be a decent skydiver by then.

CHris

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mountainman  (A License)

Aug 27, 2001, 4:37 PM
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I'll make sure to let you know before I even go. I want to be jumping in the cold too. It'll beat skiing!!

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Slowfaller  (A 38080)

Aug 28, 2001, 1:38 PM
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I want to be jumping in the cold too. It'll beat skiing!!
Hell yeah!! Do you know how dangerous that is??Laugh I'll stick to hurling myself out of a plane at 13,000ft above the ground than going 40mph across the ground into a tree!! I bought a snowboard last season and I'm not too sure its going to see that much action this Winter. I'm scaredCrazyWink


CHris

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mountainman  (A License)

Aug 28, 2001, 3:15 PM
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Good luck with your snowboarding! How much have you snowboarded before?? I have been skiing for 9 years and I snowboarded for 3 or 4. I sold my board andwent back to skiing. It is more fun to ski, IMHO.

Eitherway, good luck!!

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