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jephprospect  (Student)

Dec 1, 2008, 11:31 AM
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Hey folks,

I'm on jump 38 and still having issues jumping with just 1 person and doing docks with them. I'm getting super frusterated. Is this normal? It seems other people are learning and progressing faster then me.

Everyone always says tunnel time helps with everything but would it help for docking since it's so small?

Thanks,

Jeff


stormywinters

Dec 1, 2008, 11:34 AM
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 NO MAN! Tunnel time will never help ur boatin skills!!


kirkverner  (D 11059)

Dec 1, 2008, 11:36 AM
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The tunnel can absolutely help with taking grips. This is a common problem for beginning belly flyers. Next time start taking grips when you are slightly low so that you reach up for the grips. Do your best to not get frustrated, skydiving is an infinite learning process and requires diligent practice.


tetra316  (D 26945)

Dec 1, 2008, 1:45 PM
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Next time start taking grips when you are slightly low so that you reach up for the grips.

Interesting. Can you explain? I've never heard this before.


DON321  (D 30200)

Dec 1, 2008, 2:15 PM
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The tunnel can absolutely help with taking grips. This is a common problem for beginning belly flyers. Next time start taking grips when you are slightly low so that you reach up for the grips. Do your best to not get frustrated, skydiving is an infinite learning process and requires diligent practice.


This is Incorrect!! You Never want to REACH while trying to dock you wil only find yourself everywhere else but docking when reaching....

The tunnel is a great place to learn, expensive but well worth it.... you will progress fast with tunnel coaching, but sometimes you will need to tweak what you learned a hair when it comes to a skydive since your now wearing a parachute on your back.....


tetra316  (D 26945)

Dec 1, 2008, 2:24 PM
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You might want to consider who is posting this advice before you blatantly declare it wrong Wink


diablopilot  (D License)

Dec 1, 2008, 2:31 PM
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The tunnel can absolutely help with taking grips. This is a common problem for beginning belly flyers. Next time start taking grips when you are slightly low so that you reach up for the grips. Do your best to not get frustrated, skydiving is an infinite learning process and requires diligent practice.


This is Incorrect!! You Never want to REACH while trying to dock you wil only find yourself everywhere else but docking when reaching....

The tunnel is a great place to learn, expensive but well worth it.... you will progress fast with tunnel coaching, but sometimes you will need to tweak what you learned a hair when it comes to a skydive since your now wearing a parachute on your back.....


You just told Kirk Verner how to take a grip. Tongue


Kirk, you taking notes?Laugh


Seriously, the tunnel is a great place to work on all those "last 3 feet type things" although in Kirk and Joe's tunnel, it's more like the "last 10 feet type things"!


VanillaSkyGirl

Dec 1, 2008, 2:56 PM
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Hello Don, you might want to do a search on "Arizona Airspeed" and search who "Kirk Verner" is before responding further. His profile can be found here: http://www.onthelineskydiving.com/CoachProfiles.html

Kirk is one of the founding members of Arizona Airspeed and a very highly experienced RW coach, both in the sky and tunnel. He is also extremely humble. If he writes or says something, it would be best to try to listen and learn.


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Dec 1, 2008, 3:29 PM
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If I recal properly, when new at this grip taking thing, using a high grip will keep the fall rate going for the newer jumper.

You and I may fly a Mantis type style and have learned to maintain our fall rate, for a new jumper reaching out an inch or two may cause just enough of a body change to either pop up and/or back slide out.

It needs not be a real high grip just at the ear level is usually enough. This will also help keep the head up and aides in the eventual transition to a good eye level mantis.

Now I defer back to Kirk, since I am way our of my element now! Angelic

Matt

P.S. I could be all wrong here too!


skittles_of_SDC  (B 31374)

Dec 1, 2008, 4:14 PM
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Hello Don, you might want to do a search on "Arizona Airspeed" and search who "Kirk Verner" is before responding further. His profile can be found here: http://www.onthelineskydiving.com/CoachProfiles.html

Kirk is one of the founding members of Arizona Airspeed and a very highly experienced RW coach, both in the sky and tunnel. He is also extremely humble. If he writes or says something, it would be best to try to listen and learn.

Why you sweatin' DON321, he clearly has MAD SKILLZ. Airspeed Schmarspeed. Kirk only has a handful of championship medals. Don probably has a box full.TongueLaughLaugh


Amazon  (D License)

Dec 1, 2008, 4:18 PM
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PricelessSly


BlueHaze  (D License)

Dec 1, 2008, 4:28 PM
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And people wonder why Kirk does not post much here on DZ.com. Laugh


stormywinters

Dec 1, 2008, 4:31 PM
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 GREAT!Shocked


stormywinters

Dec 1, 2008, 4:39 PM
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U can never say the right thing here??? GREAT!!Shocked


AggieDave  (D License)

Dec 1, 2008, 5:13 PM
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This is Incorrect!! You Never want to REACH while trying to dock you wil only find yourself everywhere else but docking when reaching....

When you're done teaching Kirk how to fly RW and take grips, would you come to the Swooping forum and teach JT how to do a distance run?


CarloC  (D 252794)

Dec 1, 2008, 5:36 PM
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LaughLaughLaugh

Priceless (2)

Blue ones!!!


(This post was edited by CarloC on Dec 1, 2008, 5:38 PM)


DARK  (B 31685)

Dec 1, 2008, 5:37 PM
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ah come on lads take it easy on the guy those 2300 jumps do look deceptively like 23

ah no it is an easy mistake to make to just reply with what your coach told you without thinking

very funny though


CarloC  (D 252794)

Dec 1, 2008, 5:40 PM
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Add a zero in that, its twenty three thousand jumps

23.000 Wink

Later


hparrish  (D 25090)

Dec 1, 2008, 5:42 PM
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Yes I'm certain that the 23,000 jumps next to Kirk's profile is inaccurate.

It's probably more like 25,000 + by now right?

But what does Kirk know.........He's just a Tunnel Rat anyway.


(This post was edited by hparrish on Dec 1, 2008, 5:43 PM)


michalm21  (Student)

Dec 1, 2008, 5:47 PM
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The tunnel can absolutely help with taking grips. This is a common problem for beginning belly flyers. Next time start taking grips when you are slightly low so that you reach up for the grips. Do your best to not get frustrated, skydiving is an infinite learning process and requires diligent practice.


This is Incorrect!! You Never want to REACH while trying to dock you wil only find yourself everywhere else but docking when reaching....

The tunnel is a great place to learn, expensive but well worth it.... you will progress fast with tunnel coaching, but sometimes you will need to tweak what you learned a hair when it comes to a skydive since your now wearing a parachute on your back.....

Hahahaha LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
This is priceless. A 100 jump wonder telling Kirk is wrong at RW. Classic. Laugh


skittles_of_SDC  (B 31374)

Dec 1, 2008, 5:52 PM
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Well to be fair if someone had never heard the name kirk verner they might think that the 25,000 was a straight up lie.


hparrish  (D 25090)

Dec 1, 2008, 5:54 PM
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kind of like your 175 jumps?Wink


DARK  (B 31685)

Dec 1, 2008, 6:12 PM
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damn it now i did it i was actually saying 23000 in my head as i typed that, damn sleeping pills


skittles_of_SDC  (B 31374)

Dec 1, 2008, 6:53 PM
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kind of like your 175 jumps?Wink

WTF was that little comment? I meant because 25,000 is such a high number.


(This post was edited by skittles_of_SDC on Dec 1, 2008, 9:32 PM)


DrewEckhardt  (D 28461)

Dec 2, 2008, 3:18 AM
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The tunnel can absolutely help with taking grips. This is a common problem for beginning belly flyers. Next time start taking grips when you are slightly low so that you reach up for the grips. Do your best to not get frustrated, skydiving is an infinite learning process and requires diligent practice.


This is Incorrect!! You Never want to REACH while trying to dock you wil only find yourself everywhere else but docking when reaching....

Nah (being fully aware of the other posts and who wrote them).

You just need to learn to compensate with the rest of your body.

Reaching a foot or two in any direction is faster than accelerating and stopping all 200 pounds of you rig and beer gut so you don't have to reach. Especially if you're connected to one or more other people that you'd have to drag along with you. That's almost work.


(This post was edited by DrewEckhardt on Dec 2, 2008, 3:26 AM)


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