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Viking  (B 30397)

Aug 15, 2001, 12:11 AM
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How do i dearch without going unstable this is why i ask. In that position i don't chip atall but i do fall VERY fast. Now are there any drills that i can try while on the ground at home that will help me dearch and not start chipping again?

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dove  (D 26128)

Aug 15, 2001, 7:34 AM
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Try spreading your legs some. This will make it so you can't arch so dramatically (you look like I did before I started wearing weights and floated on everyone. I had to do the upside-down taco to keep up!) It will also give you a wider surface area to slow you down and keep you stable. (think - BOX) Hope this helps.

Dove



PhillyKev

Aug 15, 2001, 8:16 AM
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I had/have the same problem. Still occasionally start chipping a little even though I'm completely relaxed and in a good (although not as severe as yours) arch. The problem is my legs were too close together, as yours are in the pic. Your feet are shoulder width apart, but your KNEES should be shoulder width apart. Keeping your legs spread a bit more should give you the stability without having to arch so severely.

cielos azules y cerveza fra

-Kevin


Albatross  (D 32026)

Aug 15, 2001, 5:50 PM
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Wow that is one hell of an arch. Try this to help both of yuor problems. Your legs are totally straight (unless you are tracking that is a bit odd) and you are compensating by lifting your head to keep from running over your instructor. This stiff lower body and strong opposing forces will cause you to chip if you are not extreemly arched. Get on the bed or floor in front of the mirror. Lie down and try to have your elbows and knees about shoulder width and level parallel to the ground. They should be 4-6 inches off the ground in your arch. Your head should be relaxed and this should not feel tense. Your feet should be above your knees (look from the side). This willgive you more stability with less arch and should slow you down alot. If you want a more indepth explanation try Skydive U basic body flight.
Damn you are flexable!!

Flare Damn it!!!!!
Albatross


chicagoskydiver  (B 24599)

Aug 16, 2001, 7:33 AM
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Holy shit that is one hell of an arch! You must have foot prints on the back of your helmet! I saw a good article on how to do a good "relaxed" arch which is ideal for RW...I think it was in the last issue of Skydiving Magazine.

Hackey


RemiAndKaren  (C 2328)

Aug 16, 2001, 8:03 AM
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I think it was in the last issue of Skydiving Magazine.
It is, but learn to walk before you can run....

That relax arch /arms in front (aka mantis) is great for further down the line, but its not as stable as a good arch in the boxman position (ok.. maybe Viking's arch is a little more then just good...)

Viking: 1st priority is to be stable (cant imagine that position is amything BUT stable)... yea the arch is a bit extreme, but its stable... you'll learn (from local coaches) how to relax, turn, etc... you'll find a better position for yourself...

We'll all have load of good tips on here, but go through it with your coach/JMs.....





Viking  (B 30397)

Aug 16, 2001, 5:05 PM
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well i did bring my knee down once during the dive but that was when i was trying to stop my first 360 turn is this closer to what i need to do??

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SkydiveMonkey  (B 102345)

Aug 16, 2001, 5:09 PM
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(aka mantis) is great for further down the line
I was spinning on every jump I did until I tried that postion and it worked every time, and I'm a lot more stable now than I was then. I also like the way it's easier to read the alti.

Don't pull low, unless you are
Alex@SkydiveUPSC.com


SkydiveMonkey  (B 102345)

Aug 16, 2001, 5:10 PM
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WOOHOO - I've just reached Enthusiast level !! Smile

Don't pull low, unless you are
Alex@SkydiveUPSC.com


Viking  (B 30397)

Aug 16, 2001, 5:32 PM
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Enthusiast aint shit man Wink

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Albatross  (D 32026)

Aug 16, 2001, 5:39 PM
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Closer yes to a relaxed arch. Try to get the feet above the knees and I think that you will feel better.

Flare Damn it!!!!!
Albatross


jfields  (C 33595)

Aug 17, 2001, 9:01 AM
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Try stuffing a t-shirt under your jumpsuit.You may need more than one.You want to look like you have a little beer belly.
Alternatively, just drink more beer. Wink

Justin
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NewGuy  (B License)

Aug 17, 2001, 11:45 AM
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Alternatively, just drink more beer
Now you're talking... that's a secret technique! Just stay away from the light stuff...

Cheers,
NewGuy Cool



bbbilly14  (B License)

Aug 19, 2001, 2:32 AM
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Oops, all,
I didn't read enough ahead before I started repling. I guess that's why I'm a newbie! (other thread)
umm... what they said. Try to keep your legs out. You should feel some tension (aside from the obvious wind forces) against your lower legs and feet. Try jumping without socks on (but keep the shoes! for now) to see what I mean. That is what I was taught, and it worked. But arch on the floor in front of a mirror, or on a creeper, or in front of a JM, and get the feedback you need. You're well on your way. Just don't ever forget to breathe. Deeply. That is always the key.

"Son, you've got a panty on yer head!"
Billy


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stenerlov  (Student)

Aug 27, 2001, 7:00 AM
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This is great!
Ive always felt bad for my big beer belly. Im on my 17th jump
in SL progression and have no real problems with arch. Is it true, can I thank my belly for this? Should I discard my weightwatchers micromeals?

Larger canopy VS easier arch... :)

Carl-Johan, Sweden




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