Apr 27, 2007, 11:58 AM
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If I (USPA member, D license) were to visit the UK what restrictions or conditions are placed on me in order to make a skydive? Do I get treated as a novice because I don't have any of the BPA FS1 (or whatever) qualifications? Do I have to have a JM check my CYPRES before every jump? Etc., etc., or is the USPA license recognized?
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Apr 27, 2007, 12:11 PM
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None of the above!!!!!
I believe that as long as you've got all your docs, Log book, licence ect the club would check your docs, and probably your kit, get you to buy temporary membership of BPA and allow you to jump if everything was in order.
The regular problem we get in the UK is immediate post AFF course students rocking up expecting to jump with no Consolidation jumps behind them. In the UK an AFF student continues on student status until they have carried out 10 consols.
<caveat: I have only been in the sport 1 year and may not have full knowledge, feel free to correct>
Apr 27, 2007, 12:21 PM
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I don't think you will have any problems to be honest, pm cpoxon "Craig" can most likely fill you in but at your experience level i would be flabbergasted if you had any bother as long as you have you licence, log book and kit docs then you pay your temp bpa membership.
Apr 28, 2007, 6:18 AM
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let me know when and where and I'll help out as well. I'm a bloody foreigner jumping in the uk and the only thing i had to do is become a BPA member (300 dollars OUCH), but my docs were ok.
I have a USPA B and no one gave me any trouble and i'm treated as though i have all that extra crap FS1 FS2 blah blah blah.
Same with dirty sanchez and ncfitz. All of us have uspa B's and same treatment across the board.
Apr 28, 2007, 7:19 AM
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dont americans have to do a bit of FS stuff before they get an A certificate anyway? people only tend to ask if you have FS1 if your two or more relatively inexperienced jumping together anyway.
Apr 29, 2007, 3:52 PM
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When I jumped over at Langar for a summer there really wasn't much of an issue except that I had to have a BPA membership. (which was cool with me except that it cost me almost 300 american dollars for three months of skydiving! ) The only place that gave me trouble was Hiblestow (sp?? I can never spell that friggen word). They basically said that they have to treat me like a student since I didn't have my Cat 8 and my FS1 and some crap like that... yada, yada, yada. I had 80 jumps and a USPA B license with a BPA/USPA membership. So, that meant that I couldn't jump with my english friends who I was there with over the summer. I made a big stink about it and they finally let me go and honored my B-license.
I hope you don't encounter any problems, but I guess it really varies from dropzone to dropzone over there.
Apr 29, 2007, 3:57 PM
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Did I understand correctly that as of the last BPA AGM individuals with a foreign license are now allowed to jump in the UK WITHOUT having to get a BPA membership???
Apr 29, 2007, 11:11 PM
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Did I understand correctly that as of the last BPA AGM individuals with a foreign license are now allowed to jump in the UK WITHOUT having to get a BPA membership???
...if you are an EU citizen and can prove you have insurance cover of your own that will cover you for 3rd party damage while skydiving in the UK up to a certain amount. So not all foreigners I'm afraid, only the ones next door!
(this is on the assumption that you've never held full BPA membership before... if you have then you're not supposed to be eligible for the temp membership).
Apr 30, 2007, 2:28 AM
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Agreed on HIb and glad me and fitz arent the only two that had trouble. 3 years ago we tried to jump Hib an had the same problem. USPA members stay away from Hib, they seem to not want our business.
Apr 30, 2007, 4:56 AM
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Agreed on HIb and glad me and fitz arent the only two that had trouble. 3 years ago we tried to jump Hib an had the same problem. USPA members stay away from Hib, they seem to not want our business.
If it varies from DZ to DZ does this mean there's no BPA policy?
Apr 30, 2007, 5:29 AM
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You're simply not going to have the slightest bit of trouble, seriously. There's a huge difference in how careful a DZ's going to look over someone turning up with 80 jumps and someone who's got more than 20 times that experience.
DZ's in Britain don't always fully grasp the old me customer; you service provider; therefore me right attitude that some visitors demand. Appreciate that, as I'm sure you already do, and you'll have no issues whatsoever.
Apr 30, 2007, 7:41 AM
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Agreed on HIb and glad me and fitz arent the only two that had trouble. 3 years ago we tried to jump Hib an had the same problem. USPA members stay away from Hib, they seem to not want our business.
If it varies from DZ to DZ does this mean there's no BPA policy?
tsk,tsk imagine trying to tease us into bpa baiting about politics
Apr 30, 2007, 7:45 AM
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If it varies from DZ to DZ does this mean there's no BPA policy?
The BPA stance is that FAI licence holders from other countries are grandfathered (er, no pun intended) in to the system, but some DZ's choose to be more cautious/ restrictive than they need to be to comply with the BPA requirements. Seriously though, with your experience you won't have any problem at all.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned though is that BPA members over 40 need to have their doctor sign them off as fit to jump - anyone know if that applies to visitors?
Apr 30, 2007, 8:35 AM
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It's up to each individual CCI to look at someone's experience (logbook) and decide where to fit them into the "system". The medical requirements for over 40s don't apply to visiting jumpers as long as they fulfil the requirements in their home country. Obviously a low time jumper with less than 100 jumps is going to attract a lot more scrutiny than a very experienced jumper with "dues paid". In any event, you will need temporary BPA membership but, if you're staying for an extended period, you will need full BPA membership, currently 162 GBP.
You won't have a problem at my Centre but I can't speak for any others.
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Apr 30, 2007, 8:36 AM
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If it varies from DZ to DZ does this mean there's no BPA policy?
The BPA stance is that FAI licence holders from other countries are grandfathered (er, no pun intended) in to the system, but some DZ's choose to be more cautious/ restrictive than they need to be to comply with the BPA requirements. Seriously though, with your experience you won't have any problem at all.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned though is that BPA members over 40 need to have their doctor sign them off as fit to jump - anyone know if that applies to visitors?
tsk,tsk imagine trying to tease us into bpa baiting about politics 
) in to the system, but some DZ's choose to be more cautious/ restrictive than they need to be to comply with the BPA requirements. Seriously though, with your experience you won't have any problem at all. 
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