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beavdog  (D 27723)

Nov 11, 2002, 9:18 PM
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I have been trying to find some info on the Wolmari packing method. All the links in past threads havent been working. I was wondering if anyone had any links or info on this packing method.


lauril  (C License)

Nov 11, 2002, 11:24 PM
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I don't know any links about that packing method, but maybe I can help, I've used wolmari pack since I got my sabre, it's an easier method to stuff a zero-p canopy in bag..

It's simple, you pack as you were packing a pro-pack, but when you lay down your canopy, you don't stuff fabric under the canopy, you just squeeze the air out of it and make it a triangle, then fold the sides of the triangle in the center. (see poorly drawn picture) Then you proceed with your packing as you were doing a pro pack...

Hope that helps...


(This post was edited by lauril on Nov 11, 2002, 11:25 PM)
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AggieDave  (D License)

Nov 11, 2002, 11:27 PM
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In my experience as a packer, when a canopy lays out like that on the ground (triangle shape), there are lines running on the outside edges that need to be "rolled" back to the center (I don't think I can explain it very well, but you grab the lines grouped together on the edges through the fabric and roll it all to the middle using a circular motion). Folding the canopy in like that would fold the lines over too, which could burn the canopy on opening and maybe lead to a line over.

Am I off base with my concerns here?


lauril  (C License)

Nov 12, 2002, 12:57 AM
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That sounds reasonable...
I've packed with that method for about 50 jumps, and never had a single problem with it.
I think you need to concentrate (at least I am)
keeping the lines in a one pack in the center of the canopy.


ernokaikkonen  (D 12)

Nov 12, 2002, 1:14 AM
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The guy who developed the packing style says that it actually noticeably decreases the possibility of a line-over. Unfortunately his site which explains the method in detail has been offline for a while now.


drenaline  (C License)

Nov 12, 2002, 1:21 AM
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I just saw your drawing of the wolmari and would have to say that its kinda wrong, one of the golden rules I was told when I was learning to pack was to never mix the right side with the left side of the canopy cause that can cause a mal line over and have scary openings.

Take a look at my sketch. Wolmari is almost like normal propack.

edit line: I saw it in 2 different web pages if thats not wolmari please do tell me.


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ernokaikkonen  (D 12)

Nov 12, 2002, 1:30 AM
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Nope, Lauri got it right. That's the Wolmari-pack I know.


Premier cpoxon  (D 11665)
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Nov 12, 2002, 5:35 AM
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Unfortunately his site which explains the method in detail has been offline for a while now.

Access it through web.archive.org


ernokaikkonen  (D 12)

Nov 12, 2002, 5:59 AM
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Well damn. I tried but I guess I was just too dumb to use the archive...


nacmacfeegle  (D 11004)

Nov 12, 2002, 6:06 AM
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See also Brent finleys page which describes a 'modified wolmari' type packing technique....
http://www.brentfinley.com/packing2.htm

And check out some cool snaps while your there...Wink


kansasskydiver  (D 25659)

Nov 12, 2002, 8:26 AM
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Hey Matt, you can put a 6 inch bridle extension on it and start pyscho packing if you're having a hard time putting it in the bag. Alex pyscho packs and Jill does too, talk to with them


Pammi

Nov 12, 2002, 8:55 AM
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That's the way I do mine Drenaline. I didn't know it had a name! Just had Merrick show it to me once. I don't S-fold mine either tho after that so I'm not sure how that works out. I do it a little different to get it in the bag (which is a struggle for me sometimes with my small hands and I had a pretty new Sabre).

Pam


wonko  (D License)

Nov 12, 2002, 12:54 PM
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I tried but I guess I was just too dumb to use the archive...
Hi Erno, try this long one:
<http://web.archive.org/...ages/wolmarpack.html>


There is the beer line somewhere under that snow... Unsure


beavdog  (D 27723)

Nov 12, 2002, 2:55 PM
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Chris,

I was not really having trouble doing it the normal way, I was just looking around to see how others are packing. I thought about trying to do a psycho pack, just to see how it opened.


jumperconway  (D 24335)

Nov 12, 2002, 3:04 PM
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I couldn't get this to open completely. Are the folds over the canopy with the roll still on the ground or is the canopy flipped over like a psycho pack? I appreciate the input.

C 1035Cool


AggieDave  (D License)

Nov 12, 2002, 3:36 PM
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Psycho packing compared to regular propacking does NOT change how it opens, it is just a different way to put the canopy in the bag. All the steps used to effect the openings (baring bite size, etc) was already done before you set the canopy down on the ground.


drenaline  (C License)

Nov 12, 2002, 4:08 PM
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See also Brent finleys page which describes a 'modified wolmari' type packing technique....
http://www.brentfinley.com/packing2.htm
Thats the way I do it. Makes my spectre open fast and soft.


lauril  (C License)

Nov 12, 2002, 10:25 PM
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I couldn't get this to open completely. Are the folds over the canopy with the roll still on the ground or is the canopy flipped over like a psycho pack? I appreciate the input.

They are folded over the canopy, see the link in wonko's post, or if you can't open it, go see my poorly drawn pic in the start of the thread.


Kennedy  (B License)

Nov 13, 2002, 12:50 PM
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In reply to:
Psycho packing compared to regular propacking does NOT change how it opens....

Like the ag-man says, all things being equal psycho vs pro pack open exactly the same. The only reall difference is whether it is S fodled or rolled down.



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