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RMURRAY

Feb 14, 2007, 4:41 AM
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I saw a classified looking for a small turbine plane and emailed Quest Aircraft about the Kodiak. Here is what I got back. Looks like it will be rivalling the PAC750......

Hi Rob,
Thank you for your interest in the KODIAK! There will be a 'parachute' version of the KODIAK as we have depsitors that plan to use it for that very purpose. The details of the modifications have not been finalized. I have attached a preliminary parachute specification list for your interest. Please let me know if I can provide anymore information or be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Sarah Gates
Sales Assistant
sgates@questaircraft.com
208-263-1111


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kingbunky  (B 5376)

Feb 14, 2007, 5:13 AM
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looks pretty interesting, especially the high wings. i wonder what price range they'd be though.

Beerlight

Feb 14, 2007, 6:05 AM
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Nice numbers and it's not as ugly as that fucking PAC!

BillyVance  (D 18895)

Feb 14, 2007, 6:50 AM
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congratulations on the 10,000th thread in this forum!

thread hijack over, back to your regular programming.

Sly

skydog  (D 567)

Feb 14, 2007, 7:43 AM
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RAPA at Bad Lippspringe have bought one for delivery this year.

Will be interesting to see how it works out........

Bryn

hinckleya  (D License)

Feb 14, 2007, 9:01 AM
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We also have two on order. We did a full day of demo flights ,fully loaded, to simulate skydiving evironment .Signed the Purchase order at Oshkosh last year. Excellent performance and built like a tank.Little bit overkill with the Garmin 1000 package for skydiving.Don't see how anyone will be able to spot off with that system.Nobody has gotten firm delivery dates as of yet,but it is estimated for the begining of next year for our serial numbers. www.winaviation.com


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sundevil777  (D License)

Feb 14, 2007, 9:07 AM
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Do you know how jumpers it will hold? By load rating it should be able to hold about 15, but with only 8 normal passenger seats possible, perhaps they won't fit (using the example of a twin otter that can have 20 seats and holds 23 jumpers).

The tail is definitely higher/better than on the PAC.


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hinckleya  (D License)

Feb 14, 2007, 9:26 AM
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We are planning on 14 jumpers,purely on seating room. We still need to get our empty weight which will be determined by alot of factors and extras we order

bodypilot1  (D 16037)

Feb 14, 2007, 9:29 AM
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In reply to:
Nice numbers and it's not as ugly as that fucking PAC!

LaughLaughLaugh

And it doesn't have the "incredible shrinking door" as you are trying to exit. The door on the Kodiak is 50"X50". Wink


Be safe
Ed

Premier SkymonkeyONE  (D 12501)

Feb 14, 2007, 9:30 AM
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where is a link to pics of the actual plane?

angrypeppers  (B License)

Feb 14, 2007, 9:35 AM
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http://www.questaircraft.com

Click on Kodiak, then Gallery. Looks nice!

kingbunky  (B 5376)

Feb 14, 2007, 10:00 AM
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how does the price compare to a PAC? any idea on how other costs will compare? turnaround times?

pilotdave  (D License)

Feb 14, 2007, 10:10 AM
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I don't know if they show a price somewhere else on their site that's more current, but in March of 2006 an article in the press section of their site says "The plane’s current base price is $1.3 million includes a three screen Garmin G1000 avionics suite."

That would be about the same price as a PAC750, but I would be very surprised if the price hadn't gone up over the last year. Also that's not the price for a plane outfitted for skydiving, which I would hope would run a little cheaper.

Dave


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Chris-Ottawa  (B License)

Feb 14, 2007, 10:35 AM
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Any idea how this plane compares to a PC-12, Turbo Beaver or a Caravan? Thinking about price, payload, fuel etc... Also, how well they operate as jumpships?

From my knowledge, the above listed planes are all in the same league.

Hopefully someone has some info.

Thanks


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riggerrob  (D 14840)

Feb 14, 2007, 11:02 AM
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Kodiak is what Cessna's Caravan would look like if it were designed for jumping: bigger engine, bigger wing and smaller cabin.
It looks like Kodiaks will carry about 10 jumpers at a time, ideal for a two-Cessna DZ trying to move up. Tandem instructors will love it because it will carry so many - small - loads per day that they will be able to earn serious money.

Sure, the numbers may say that a Kodiak can carry more weight, but it would be like trying to stuff 17 into a PAC 750. (Last week at the PIA Symposium) Ray Ferrel assured us that PACs could carry 17, but 12 ... maybe 14 ... looks far more comfortable and practical.

Kodiak looks like the perfect size for small DZs that are growing: 10 seats, fixed gear, etc.

Andrewwhyte  (C 1988)

Feb 14, 2007, 12:02 PM
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Anyone know fuel burn for a -34?
Specific G for jet A?

USPA  (D 81812)

Feb 14, 2007, 2:28 PM
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Too bad it has a PT6 engine... :(

bob.dino  (E 2185)

Feb 14, 2007, 2:57 PM
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A 750XL can take 16 if you put one in the copilot's seat, ten on the floor and five on the step behind the pilot. This isn't bad if there are no tandems or wingsuits on the load. 17 requires good friendship between all concerned.

diablopilot  (D License)

Feb 14, 2007, 2:58 PM
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Why? The PT6 is the most common turbine in the Skydiving industry.

bob.dino  (E 2185)

Feb 14, 2007, 3:04 PM
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In reply to:
Too bad it has a PT6 engine... :(

What's wrong with the PT6?

RMURRAY

Feb 14, 2007, 5:13 PM
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Kodiak is what Cessna's Caravan would look like if it were designed for jumping: bigger engine, bigger wing and smaller cabin.
It looks like Kodiaks will carry about 10 jumpers at a time, ideal for a two-Cessna DZ trying to move up. Tandem instructors will love it because it will carry so many - small - loads per day that they will be able to earn serious money.

Sure, the numbers may say that a Kodiak can carry more weight, but it would be like trying to stuff 17 into a PAC 750. (Last week at the PIA Symposium) Ray Ferrel assured us that PACs could carry 17, but 12 ... maybe 14 ... looks far more comfortable and practical.

Kodiak looks like the perfect size for small DZs that are growing: 10 seats, fixed gear, etc.

so it would most likely be flying "light" and the climb rates would be better. nice. What about the rear stabilizer - is that high enough and far enough away for comfort?

rm


(This post was edited by RMURRAY on Feb 14, 2007, 5:15 PM)

sundevil777  (D License)

Feb 14, 2007, 6:11 PM
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What about the rear stabilizer - is that high enough and far enough away for comfort?

Looks pretty high to me, much better than a PAC or King Air, not as high as a Twin Otter.
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2fat2fly  (A License)

Feb 14, 2007, 6:16 PM
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The PT6 is probably up in the most reliable engines out there. It certainly beats those Garretts that are just noise makers that produce thrust as a by-productSmile

JohnMitchell  (D 6462)

Feb 14, 2007, 10:10 PM
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You're not answering . . .Tongue

USPA  (D 81812)

Feb 15, 2007, 1:55 AM
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Quote:
The PT6 is probably up in the most reliable engines out there.

But ours quit mid flight, without warning last summer. Just a few hundred hours after the overhaul. Don't know the bells and whistles, just that beginning of january the DZO was still waiting for the report of P&W.

Happily the engine quit at 8k, so everyone made it out alive, and the great cessna grand caravan is a great glider, the pilot told me... :D

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