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kneepuff

Jan 28, 2007, 7:08 PM
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I had my first cutaway during my AFF training. Yep. Jump 6 of the training. Exit and freefall were excellent. Chute deployment beautiful. The chute opened beautifully. Then I went to release the brakes and the left toggle came off in my hand!

Well, I remembered reading something about another way to steer the chute, but we had not covered it in training, and I had no expereince with it, so, I thought to myself, "Good parachute? Bad parachute? Can I steer it? Can I land it?"

Nope - not on jump 6 of my training. I made the decision to release the main and deploy the reserve. I did it all calmly, without panic, and had a nice tidy landing, too.

I guess it is pretty unusual to have a cutaway so early. I wasn't expecting to use my emergency training so soon but I am happy to know that I can handle it. Thank you Bill, for being so tough on me that morning before we went up. You'll be glad to know that I shouted all the commands out loud as I released and deployed. ;-)

So, how many jumps did you have in before you had to do a cutaway? And what's your story?


(This post was edited by kneepuff on Jan 28, 2007, 7:55 PM)


dharma1976  (D 28634)

Jan 28, 2007, 7:12 PM
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AggieDave  (D License)

Jan 28, 2007, 7:21 PM
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Jump 1398, I had tension knots on a tandem main that I wasn't able to clear. Even though that was the first time I had a real cutaway, I did have a jump much earlier in my jumping career (prior to jump 500) that I lost altitude awareness during spinning linetwists. I should have chopped that one and made it through that situation through pure luck. I won't bore you with details, I posted about it a few years ago when it happened.


chanti  (C 1687)

Jan 28, 2007, 9:50 PM
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Good on you for making a decision and sticking to it! I've had 3, the first one was at jump 42 on borrowed gear ( a tension knot), the second at jump 121 (hard pull) and third at 186 (toggle fire, which in hindsight I shouldn't really have chopped ... but hey)


WILDBILLAQR  (D 29042)

Jan 28, 2007, 10:36 PM
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Jump #123. Yep, pulled handles 1,2&3Cool
BIG FUN!! Lineover! Looked up,started spinning, said "oh--- SHIT", tried to clear once, said" I hope my instructors were right! Chopped!
My instructors & rigger were rightSmile
BTW, so were MY ACTIONS!
(indivdual results may vary)


jimmytavino  (A 3914)

Jan 29, 2007, 5:24 AM
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jump 525

june 20, 1975

cutaway a malfunctioned French Papillon

mini system containers
shot and a half capewells
26 ft. navy Conical reserve, center pull, chest mount. NO AAD, no stevens assist.
standing landingSmileWink


QTPi  (D License)

Jan 29, 2007, 6:09 AM
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Jump #417, line twists all the way to my risers without any altitude left to kick out. The EP practice made it all automatic.


fastphil  (D 5801)

Jan 29, 2007, 6:40 AM
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It's nice to know now that you can handle the situation, now never get too relaxed in your EPs. I had a friend who had several hundred jumps without incident, and maybe that made her too indifferent. She was involved in a messy canopy collision, cut away high enough but never pulled the reserve...


timmyfitz  (D License)

Jan 29, 2007, 8:39 AM
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My first cutaway was shortly after my first malfunctionTongue


kneepuff

Jan 29, 2007, 9:30 AM
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It's nice to know now that you can handle the situation, now never get too relaxed in your EPs. I had a friend who had several hundred jumps without incident, and maybe that made her too indifferent. She was involved in a messy canopy collision, cut away high enough but never pulled the reserve...

You're right. It is nice to know that I can handle the situation. But I also realize that it was a really easy situation this time. Next time could be hairier. I'll not get too comfortable with myself up there. Cool


Premier NWFlyer  (D License)

Jan 29, 2007, 9:58 AM
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In reply to:
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It's nice to know now that you can handle the situation, now never get too relaxed in your EPs. I had a friend who had several hundred jumps without incident, and maybe that made her too indifferent. She was involved in a messy canopy collision, cut away high enough but never pulled the reserve...

You're right. It is nice to know that I can handle the situation. But I also realize that it was a really easy situation this time. Next time could be hairier. I'll not get too comfortable with myself up there. Cool

Great attitude about not getting too comfortable or complacent. But also give yourself credit for handing an "easy" situation. It's often those malfunctions that aren't as dramatic that can cause the most problems. An "easy" malfunction may seem like something that you can fix, or manage, and people have tried to fix their canopies all the way to the ground. You assessed the situation, made a choice, and acted decisively. Congratulations. Smile


TheBachelor  (D 22560)

Jan 29, 2007, 12:56 PM
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Still waiting for my first cutaway. 1200+ jumps so far.


MagicGuy  (D 30470)

Jan 29, 2007, 2:47 PM
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In reply to:
shot and a half capewells
26 ft. navy Conical reserve, center pull, chest mount. NO AAD, no stevens assist.
standing landingSmileWink

Was that one of the ones where you have to punch the reserve to get it to open? Wink

No cutaways yet, hopefully it will stay that way for a while anyways.


tetra316  (D 26945)

Jan 29, 2007, 4:39 PM
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No cutaways yet (knocks on wood) aside from intentionals.


adventurechick  (C 35899)

Jan 29, 2007, 5:28 PM
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Jump 186, it was an intentional cutaway though :o)


jimmytavino  (A 3914)

Jan 29, 2007, 6:54 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
shot and a half capewells
26 ft. navy Conical reserve, center pull, chest mount. NO AAD, no stevens assist.
standing landingSmileWink

Was that one of the ones where you have to punch the reserve to get it to open? Wink

No cutaways yet, hopefully it will stay that way for a while anyways.

well when i was doing static line jumps I was first trained to "Pull and Punch", since the reserve had NO spring loaded pilot chute in it...
But by the time I had this cutaway, I had "updated" my gear to include a reserve pilot chute, spring loaded and set onto a "kicker plate", which helped to insure a good launch, and make certain that the base of the P C did NOT dig down into the fabric of the canopy material , and thereby get stuck....
The reserve PC "rocketed" outta the chest mounted container, and drew that round cleanly away from me,,, it opened clean and fast...Smile and all right in front of my eyes....


Floats18  (C 35650)

Jan 29, 2007, 8:48 PM
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I had one when Ryan Turner tried to kill me...

but thats a story for another day.

Who is Ryan Turner?


RogerRamjet  (D License)

Jan 30, 2007, 11:55 AM
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In reply to:
jump 525

june 20, 1975

cutaway a malfunctioned French Papillon

mini system containers
shot and a half capewells
26 ft. navy Conical reserve, center pull, chest mount. NO AAD, no stevens assist.
standing landingSmileWink

Excellent!

Mine was in 1974, about jump number 350. Lineover on C9 cheapo. One-Shots with a Wonderhog. 26' Navy Conical, standup landing. I had done two intentional cutaways prior. Changed to squares and never had another mal.


sid  (D 20135)

Jan 30, 2007, 12:48 PM
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Jimmy - I thought that you started with wooden parachutes Tongue


jimmytavino  (A 3914)

Jan 30, 2007, 2:00 PM
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close,,, it was wooden AIRPLANES....Wink

.....D A V I N C I ........
.....T A V I N O..........
as i was growing up....
i was always told that my ancestry includes some
" different thinking" forefathers.....
and we all share(d) a love for the sky...CoolSmile
maybe I DID have an Uncle Leo , from the old country...ShockedCoolWinkSmile

jmy


labrys  (D 29848)

Jan 30, 2007, 2:17 PM
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My first was at around 260 jumps. I had diving line twists on a hop n pop. I think a toggle came unstowed along with some line twists. I was on my back and there was nothing I could do to fix it, so oh well. Had to get help fishing my freebag out of powerlines, of all the places it could have landed.

Forty jumps later I had new gear and the main risers got stuck in the rig. I couldn't figure that out either (I thought the risers were twisted behind my head at first) so away it went. I had a Skyhook on that one. It was nice not to have to go looking for the freebag. Smile


Madison  (D 25271)

Jan 30, 2007, 5:23 PM
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My 1st, and only cutaway to date, was around 400 jumps. 2 jumps before, on different days, I had pilot chute hesitation and both times said, "I need a new pilot chute." Didn't get one, (VERY STUPID) next jump had a pilot chute in tow. Couldn't reach the bridle- was at 2000- said Fuck it. Did my EP, very intinctively- with my main just clearing my reserve(yeah, I know), and was under a reserve with a built in left turn! This started spiraling me to the left-I counteracted it all the way till I landed safe on the runway. A girl on my load ran up to me and said,"I didn't know you bought a new all-white canopy!! Dipshit. Anyway, everyone said,"Ya gotta get back on the horse!". So I grabbed my CRW rig and was up a load later. It did help, but I admit I was pretty scared on the ride to altitude. Needless to say the Co. that built my reserve gave me a free new one-don't know if that's a good thing or not! Bottom line-Keep your gear in good condition! Blue Skies,April


Spatula  (A 48026)

Jan 31, 2007, 10:58 AM
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Jump #56, broken D Line at the cascade from a hard opening. Didn't even think about it, just did the EP's and landed fine. Then spent 1/2 the day searching for my main which landed 100+ feet up in a pine tree. Luckily a guy at the DZ just happend to have tree climbing gear and got it down for me.

Good times!


(This post was edited by Spatula on Jan 31, 2007, 10:59 AM)


sid  (D 20135)

Jan 31, 2007, 1:17 PM
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In reply to:

i was always told that my ancestry includes some
" different thinking" forefathers.....
jmy

Jimmy, I did the research - that was "different drinking" forefathers Tongue - close though
ps: see ya in a few weeks, try and warm up the North East a little for me willyaCool


stanlholmes  (B 29295)

Feb 1, 2007, 8:13 AM
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I'm one up on you. (Is that a good thing?#$%^&?). Mine was jump #5. A static line off the step of a 182 w/a Paracommander, Capewells and a Stevenson's Cutaway. It was 1978. I did my first hop-and-pop later that day. I was sure I was going to die, so my step off and arch were really good.

Stan


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