Forums: Skydiving: Safety and Training:
exit

 


-freedom-  (Student)

Sep 3, 2006, 1:55 PM
Post #1 of 14 (2015 views)
Shortcut
exit Can't Post

I see most of a skydivers makes exit to the tail of an airplane. I try it, but I get into spin (later I got stabilized, but i lose about 4sec). Anyway, if someone can describe me a little, how exactly should I exit? Maybe common mistakes...


MB38  (A 48618)

Sep 3, 2006, 3:04 PM
Post #2 of 14 (1981 views)
Shortcut
Re: [-freedom-] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

What kind of plane? Are you diving for stepping off backwards? Fill out your profile.


Sockpuppet  (Student)

Sep 3, 2006, 3:27 PM
Post #3 of 14 (1967 views)
Shortcut
Re: [-freedom-] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
I see most of a skydivers makes exit to the tail of an airplane. I try it, but I get into spin (later I got stabilized, but i lose about 4sec). Anyway, if someone can describe me a little, how exactly should I exit? Maybe common mistakes...

Were in by any change a hot chick in a black jump suit with an all black rig (chest strap through keeper btw) and using det cord to exit the aircraft?

If so I'd go for a triple loop exit.


FlyinseivLP2  (D 18628)

Sep 3, 2006, 4:10 PM
Post #4 of 14 (1945 views)
Shortcut
Re: [-freedom-] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

No matter what type of aircraft or what type of exit you need to present you chest to the relative wind. If you are exiting an airplane the relative wind is coming from the front of the aircraft. I'll assume you are atlking about doing a diving exit from a side door aircraft(otter, king air, ect.) The easiest way is to dive straight out the door(toward the wingtip) at the same time twist your chest toward the front of the aircraft, putting your chest into the relative wind. If you do this right you will turn 90 degrees toward the tail of aircraft in a head low position.


mjosparky  (D 5476)

Sep 3, 2006, 4:19 PM
Post #5 of 14 (1940 views)
Shortcut
Re: [-freedom-] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

Who are you and what is your experence level? It would help if you fill out your profile.


Babi  (E 6308)

Sep 3, 2006, 11:28 PM
Post #6 of 14 (1867 views)
Shortcut
Re: [-freedom-] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

I am pretty new to the sport. Unless it is a Cessna (altitude 1200 m) I, too, exit at the tail end of the door, facing towards the tail. Instructions to me were: don't push, just fall out, make sure the leg near the door exits last. And then straight into arch. It turns me around a bit, but I find it is fun. Still plenty of time to get stable, which I always do. Try to enjoy the four seconds - and ARCH!!!


Babi


-freedom-  (Student)

Sep 3, 2006, 11:56 PM
Post #7 of 14 (1859 views)
Shortcut
Re: [-freedom-] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

I have about 50 jumps and I exit from side door (pilatus). I’d like to jump to a tail, not wingtip. Just I don't know why it flips me after jump? What should be my body position and should I throw my self to the ground or tail?


dragon2  (D 101989)

Sep 4, 2006, 12:43 AM
Post #8 of 14 (1847 views)
Shortcut
Re: [-freedom-] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

Feet on your butt, arch like hell, arms stretched forward, look UP not down. You'll get it Wink

But why are your own instructors not helping you with this?


Babi  (E 6308)

Sep 4, 2006, 9:20 AM
Post #9 of 14 (1761 views)
Shortcut
Re: [dragon2] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

On a boogie I get passed on to a different instructor and the ways of my instructors differ. Lucky for me. I can try another way. My first instructor told me to throw myself at the wind and this did not work for me. The second one saw me struggling and told me to just drop from the plane and arch and I am fine now.

I trust my instructor with my life, but sometimes I like to hear it from different people.

I thought this was the point to this forum, to exchange opinions, to learn from each other. Of course the instructor is the first person to approach, but sometimes you keep on getting the same answer that you just don't get. I see from people posting here that I am not the only one this way.

Your post to Freedom reminded me of something that I have already forgotten: feet on you but. After 68 jumps I thought I have this nailed, but I didn't.


-freedom-  (Student)

Sep 4, 2006, 10:00 AM
Post #10 of 14 (1749 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Babi] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

Now you don't have any problems with this kind of exit? This present big problem to me because I need to open after max. 2 seconds. Something like h&p. My instructor said that I just need to arch, but this don’t help


Babi  (E 6308)

Sep 4, 2006, 10:28 PM
Post #11 of 14 (1669 views)
Shortcut
Re: [-freedom-] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

No problem at altitude. But I do not get stable in just two seconds, that is for sure. I've been forgetting about my legs and this is what I need to concentrate on now.

Hop & pop at my DZ is done from Cesna 172 where you are already in a correct position when you jump. Some experienced jumpers go head first, but I don't. Not enough time to get stable.

I made one jump from C206 while still on static line and it was a complete disaster so I cannot advise you here. I've had a thread going here and people gave me a lot of advice. I never tried it again.

I'd listen to Saskia's advice.

What plane are you jumping from?


-freedom-  (Student)

Sep 4, 2006, 11:09 PM
Post #12 of 14 (1664 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Babi] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

I was jumping from pilatus. It wasn't nice when I first time jumped from it cause it really start to flipping me. I jumped below 3000 ft and I got handeploy. I watched some guy that exit before me, and it seems so simple, but I guess it isn't


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Sep 5, 2006, 10:46 AM
Post #13 of 14 (1596 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Babi] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

Hop & pop at my DZ is done from Cessna 172 where you are already in a correct position when you jump. Some experienced jumpers go head first, but I don't. Not enough time to get stable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Aerodynamically, a head up and a head down stable exit are the same. You are still presenting your belly to the wind.
A head high, poised exit is the easiest for students to understand. Many schools teach hanging exits - from Cessnas because that puts the student in 3/4 of an arch before he lets go of the airplane and that produces the highest percentage of stable exits.

Diving exits are slightly more difficult because of the different sight picture. The trick is to avoid throwing too much rotational energy into a diving exit. It also helps - when you dive out - to push your hands high above your head (towards the ground) and put your feet on your butt for a couple of seconds. This helps cancel any rotational movement (front-looping tendency).


Babi  (E 6308)

Sep 5, 2006, 11:10 PM
Post #14 of 14 (1545 views)
Shortcut
Re: [riggerrob] exit [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you for the advise. "Feet on the butt" is what I was forgetting and I must keep this in mind. I shall try also the arms, but I think I am already doing it.



Forums : Skydiving : Safety and Training

 


Search for (options)