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davidfreefly  (D 36105635)

Jul 24, 2006, 8:34 AM
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HI FRIENDS,
I have received an email from a jumpsuits company in pakistanCrazy
Anyone knos them??
Some of the pics of the jumpsuits are taked from a German company.Crazy

Do you think is a serious company???

http://www.jumpswear.com


Premier GravityGirl  (D 18897)

Jul 24, 2006, 8:45 AM
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I get those all of the time. Regardless of weather or not they are a real sew house and the original suit may have been designed by a skydiver....

....this does not look at all appealing. I also get them for helmets, altis, etc.


davidfreefly  (D 36105635)

Jul 24, 2006, 8:54 AM
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gravitygirl... i dont understand you very well.. you say you have get items from this pakistan company???


(This post was edited by davidfreefly on Jul 24, 2006, 8:56 AM)


Premier GravityGirl  (D 18897)

Jul 24, 2006, 8:56 AM
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No. I get solicitations from them all the time.


davidfreefly  (D 36105635)

Jul 24, 2006, 9:02 AM
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ok.
I understand now.
I have checked the german site http://www.rainbowsuits.com/ The pakistan site is a bad copy of the German company....

Why people do this???


davidfreefly  (D 36105635)

Jul 24, 2006, 9:31 AM
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All pics of suits are from rainbow suits.Crazy
rainbow suits should denounce these guys


ellocokiwi

Jul 24, 2006, 1:24 PM
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Yea, i think they are a scam. I mean, they say a freefly suit costs 50GBP...so about 93 bucks. Delivery of 3 - 4 days??? I smell a scam...Crazy


link2334  (C 36751)

Jul 24, 2006, 2:05 PM
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I got the same thing last week. I agree, sounds alittle scamish to me too.....


gregandtanya  (D 817)

Jul 24, 2006, 2:33 PM
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Two of the pictures on the wed site come from RMW jumpsuits web site here in Australia.

www.rmwjumpsuits.com


duroejc  (D 27312)

Jul 24, 2006, 6:28 PM
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Sid got some- let's see if he chimes in


rmwglenn  (F 544)

Jul 24, 2006, 9:40 PM
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In reply to:
Two of the pictures on the wed site come from RMW jumpsuits web site here in Australia.

www.rmwjumpsuits.com
A pity they didn't credit the photographers as well!

Their next step is to contact all the jumpsuit manufacturers to say they have manufacturing facilities and experience and hence can make skydiving suits for them cheaper.


diablopilot  (D License)

Jul 24, 2006, 10:03 PM
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I wouldn't say scam. Just you get what you pay for.

Guess where a good 50% of the new skydiving gloves on the market now are being made.


teason  (D 18902)

Jul 24, 2006, 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Sid got some- let's see if he chimes in
I don't believe that was the same company, but it was from the same region


sid  (D 20135)

Jul 25, 2006, 4:22 AM
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In reply to:
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Sid got some- let's see if he chimes in
I don't believe that was the same company, but it was from the same region

I got some from a different company, but as Tim said, still in the same area of Pakistan. The suits were really well made and I use them mainly for tandem students. In fact I have a couple more on order right now. The company I got mine from was Frexer, and my dealings with them have been really good and professionally conducted (although I seem to have become the owners new e-pen pal). Their website wasn't a rip off (although it was riddled with an amazing number of adjectives) and featured Pakistani models showing the range of suits.


McDuck  (C 35093)

Jul 26, 2006, 10:42 AM
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I visited their site and sent them an email requesting pricing information. They kindly responded and are awaiting my response. Is the quality of the suits you've purchased through them such that you believe they will last long enough to make it worth my while to purchase a freefly suit from them?


DrewEckhardt  (D 28461)

Jul 26, 2006, 12:06 PM
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I wouldn't say scam. Just you get what you pay for.

You pay for what you get where the minimum is set by the costs of materials, labor, shipping, and taxes.

I paid my rigger $40 for materials on my last jumpsuit plus about $175 in labor which would have covered a half day's work at his usual rates. The result was better built than a Dakine suit.

The average annual income in Pakistan is $2400 a year. Making the math easy by assuming 5 day work weeks with 2 weeks off each year that's $8 a day.

So I should be able to have the same suit made by a Pakistani taillor for under $50.

Welcome to globalization.


(This post was edited by DrewEckhardt on Jul 26, 2006, 4:44 PM)


sid  (D 20135)

Jul 26, 2006, 12:17 PM
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In reply to:
I visited their site and sent them an email requesting pricing information. They kindly responded and are awaiting my response. Is the quality of the suits you've purchased through them such that you believe they will last long enough to make it worth my while to purchase a freefly suit from them?

The suits that I got were RW suits (I got these from Frexer not from jumpswear) and are excellent quality. I am using them for my tandem students. I have a couple of Freefly suits coming to use as tandem instructor suits, they are due anyday, if you want to hang on I'll let you know how they are and post a pic for ya!

The suits I have so far are all double needle sewn, reinforced butts, overlocked and well made. I paid $35 each for them plus shipping. I'll report on the Freefly suits when they get here..........


DougH  (D License)

Jul 26, 2006, 7:03 PM
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Could you please provide contact info from them. I need to get a RW suit that doesn't break my student bank, and I can skid into earth on and not cry when I stain it all up!!!


McDuck  (C 35093)

Jul 27, 2006, 3:50 AM
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In reply to:
The suits that I got were RW suits (I got these from Frexer not from jumpswear) and are excellent quality. I am using them for my tandem students. I have a couple of Freefly suits coming to use as tandem instructor suits, they are due anyday, if you want to hang on I'll let you know how they are and post a pic for ya!

The suits I have so far are all double needle sewn, reinforced butts, overlocked and well made. I paid $35 each for them plus shipping. I'll report on the Freefly suits when they get here..........

Perfect! Thank you! Frexer was quite enthusiastic in their reply to my initial contact, and I don't doubt their integrity or sincerity. I've simply come to rely on first-hand experience with jumpsuits and taking that advice to heart. I look forward to hearing your impressions on the freefly suits.


crotalus01  (B 28932)

Jul 27, 2006, 5:11 PM
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you guys need to travel more....anything out of India/Pakistan/Sri Lanka that involves sewing is most likely legit. They are some bad ass tailors. AND they are cheap.
you get what you pay for does NOT apply to tailored goods from SEAsia/Indian subcontinent for the most part. Of course there are scams, but when it comes to anything sewn, you are pretty much okay. Cambodia is the exception - as much as I love the country, everything I bought there has fallen apart, including the books....CrazyBlushMad


Hayfield  (C 36234)

Jul 27, 2006, 8:52 PM
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How much did shipping cost? From Pakistan has got to be expensive, 70 bucks or so?


sid  (D 20135)

Jul 28, 2006, 2:32 AM
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How much did shipping cost? From Pakistan has got to be expensive, 70 bucks or so?

$50 for 4 suits crammed into a small box and covered with that woven nylon netting. Everything shipped by mail.


Cookie  (F License)

Jul 28, 2006, 5:22 AM
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Do you think it may be possible that the suits made in these countries are built using child labour???

Just a ThoughtUnimpressed
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kirrz  (A 1)

Jul 28, 2006, 6:01 AM
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Do you think it may be possible that the suits made in these countries are built using child labour???

Just a ThoughtUnimpressed
Cookie

No. I live in Thailand (equally 3rd world) and have an Indian background (so have frequented as a native India & Pakistan a lot), it's not child labour... it's just cheap because there is an over supply of labour in these countries and so the "skill" that earns heaps of money in Western countries isn't very valuable there because everyone can/ is willing to do it. It's the same reason why everything is made in China these days.. over supply of labour = cheap labour = low cost of good.


sid  (D 20135)

Jul 28, 2006, 8:20 AM
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In reply to:
Do you think it may be possible that the suits made in these countries are built using child labour???

Just a ThoughtUnimpressed
Cookie

Hey - if it's good enough for Kathie Lee Gifford, it's good enough for me.......Angelic

actually I told the owner that I was probably traveling to India later this year and he asked me to come visit his production facility in Pakistan. I doubt he'd do that if he was running a child sweatshop, although I did let slip I can sew a little, maybe he just wants to handcuff me to a sewing machine


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