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waltappel

May 13, 2006, 10:23 PM
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After a day at the DZ I went to a store to get some energy drinks for the drive home and saw an energy drink called "Frappio". I laughed and thought they probably don't sell much of that to jumpers!

Anyway, it got me wondering--anyone have any good explanations for where the word "frap" came from?

Walt


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 13, 2006, 10:33 PM
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Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

frap
One entry found for frap.

Main Entry: frap
Pronunciation: 'frap
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): frapped; frapping
Etymology: Middle English, to strike, beat, from Middle French fraper
: to draw tight (as with ropes or cables) <frap a sail>



It was around when I started.Tongue


zoobrothertom  (D 9397)

May 14, 2006, 3:33 AM
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I'm sure you've heard of a frap hat. The leather 'helmet' worn by many older jumpers that haven't switched over to a full face. Popular with tandem students, too.
I was told by an older jumper years ago that "Frap" was the noise made by the leather when snapped together. Drop a frap hat flat on concrete sometime and you've got the sound.
Another definition is a synonym for bounce.


jaymundo  (D 22179)

May 14, 2006, 4:57 AM
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 I know in cajun french ...frappe.....HIT HARD....I figgered it came from French.


bozo  (D 10154)

May 14, 2006, 5:09 AM
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I know in cajun french ...frappe.....HIT HARD....I figgered it came from French.

We have a winner !



bozo


howardwhite  (C 3896)

May 14, 2006, 5:18 AM
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Indeed, the French verb "frapper" means to hit, beat, etc etc

And in most of New England, at least, a "frappe" is what is known elsewhere as a "milk shake," i.e. milk and syrup plus ice cream beaten into a thick, foamy drink.

I remember the late great USPA Treasurer Jack Bergman, opposing a USPA Board motion to amend BSRs to allow jumpers to wear frap hats:
"If you've got a 10-cent brain, put it in a 10-cent helmet."

HW


(This post was edited by howardwhite on May 14, 2006, 5:22 AM)


jonstark  (D 8298)

May 14, 2006, 5:22 PM
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I had a friend, Mike, in Atlanta with lots of birds. He taught one to say "Frap" whenever he would make a descending scream. Well...The other birds all caught on the the scream and the Frap! When you'd call Mike's house very often you'd hear about 4 or 5 birds scream and a bunch of frapp frap fraps from the others. It was a riot!

jon, just had to share


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 14, 2006, 7:48 PM
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In reply to:
"If you've got a 10-cent brain, put it in a 10-cent helmet."

In skydiving its "If you've got a 10 cent brain, put it a $300 dollar helmet".Tongue


slug  (B License)

May 14, 2006, 8:37 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
"If you've got a 10-cent brain, put it in a 10-cent helmet."

In skydiving its "If you've got a 10 cent brain, put it a $300 dollar helmet".Tongue

Don't forget the $50 dollar helmet bag thats match's your jumpsuit and rig.Wink

R.I.P.


airtwardo  (D License)

May 14, 2006, 8:44 PM
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Have you SEEN what Tony F is GETTING for a Frat Hat these days!Shocked


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 14, 2006, 10:10 PM
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Have you SEEN what Tony F is GETTING for a Frat Hat these days!Shocked

A lot less then I paid for this Fu**ng helmet.Crazy
Attachments: Helmet 3.jpg (44.4 KB)


zoobrothertom  (D 9397)

May 15, 2006, 2:41 AM
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Hey Jaymundo,
would you be the old guy that told me drop it on the concrete story Wink
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airtwardo  (D License)

May 15, 2006, 8:42 AM
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Have you SEEN what Tony F is GETTING for a Frat Hat these days!Shocked

A lot less then I paid for this Fu**ng helmet.Crazy

Quote:

I like the color Sparky!

You should get EVERYTHING in that color!!!TongueSly


bozo  (D 10154)

May 15, 2006, 9:02 AM
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I like the color Sparky!

You should get EVERYTHING in that color!!!TongueSly

No need.....he quit.........remember ? :o)

bozo


slug  (B License)

May 15, 2006, 10:22 AM
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Have you SEEN what Tony F is GETTING for a Frat Hat these days!Shocked

A lot less then I paid for this Fu**ng helmet.Crazy

Hi sparky

Thats a very nice looking skid lid. No scratchs, etc. Got a pic of the helmet bag you used to protect the finish you can post for us, or was it a closet queenTongue?

Don't worry folks I'm not staying long, I'll crawl back under my rock.

R.I.P.


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 15, 2006, 12:13 PM
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In reply to:
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Have you SEEN what Tony F is GETTING for a Frat Hat these days!Shocked

A lot less then I paid for this Fu**ng helmet.Crazy

Hi sparky

Thats a very nice looking skid lid. No scratchs, etc. Got a pic of the helmet bag you used to protect the finish you can post for us, or was it a closet queenTongue?

Don't worry folks I'm not staying long, I'll crawl back under my rock.

R.I.P.

I carry it in a military flight helmet bag I got a the surplus store for $14.00, plus I would wear my frap hat most of the time.Tongue

The same type of bag I carried this helmet in. (see attachment)
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mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 15, 2006, 12:23 PM
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I like the color Sparky!

You should get EVERYTHING in that color!!!

If I ever start jumping again, I think I would give that idea some thought. Tongue


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 15, 2006, 6:21 PM
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Have you SEEN what Tony F is GETTING for a Frat Hat these days!Shocked

A lot less then I paid for this Fu**ng helmet.Crazy

Hi sparky

Thats a very nice looking skid lid. No scratchs, etc. Got a pic of the helmet bag you used to protect the finish you can post for us, or was it a closet queenTongue?

Don't worry folks I'm not staying long, I'll crawl back under my rock.

R.I.P.

I just happen to get a new camera as a gift todaySmile so here are a couple of pictures of the the helmet bags I use.
Attachments: Helmetbag1.jpg (90.0 KB)
  Helmetbag2.jpg (92.0 KB)


slug  (B License)

May 15, 2006, 11:27 PM
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Hi Sparky

Thanks for the pics. I'm sure you know I've just been yanking your chain about the $50 vollor coordinated helmet bag.

We've got the same bag as your black one, and another one OD. For the young ones who have never seen one they all have lots of neat pockets, inside and outside the bag for holding stuff like rubber bands spare ripcord, cutaway handle, pullup cords, goggles, log books etc.

The military stile helmet bags are very nice and the price is right, but... but I guess the color cordinated folks would have to go all black or OD to keep the "look".

R.I.P.


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 16, 2006, 12:06 AM
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The little OD one I stole from NASA several years ago and does not have all the neat pockets but as you said the price was right.

I thought black was a "go with anything" color.Tongue


zoobrothertom  (D 9397)

May 16, 2006, 1:09 AM
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Nice! Got the same OD bag myself from my crew chief/tech inspector days in the army. When not jumping, they also make a great weekend bag for short trips.


airtwardo  (D License)

May 16, 2006, 8:51 AM
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here are a couple of pictures of the the helmet bags I use.

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I use the 'double bagger' system!

I but MY high dollar brain bucket in tho O.D. Green one, then into the fashionable Black one!Wink
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JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

May 16, 2006, 4:24 PM
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Hi Sparky,

It is a federal offense to 'steal' from a US gov't agency; you meant to say that you 'liberated' it. Right??????

Jerry


mjosparky  (D 5476)

May 16, 2006, 11:17 PM
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Hi Sparky,

It is a federal offense to 'steal' from a US gov't agency; you meant to say that you 'liberated' it. Right??????

Jerry

No, I stole the damn thing. I worked a couple of programs for NASA, and I could have stole a truck load of them and they would not know they were missing. Cool


GreenLight  (D 18859)

May 24, 2006, 10:45 PM
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anyone have any good explanations for where the word "frap" came from?

Walt

Actually it refers to the sound the loose jump suits we wore back in the day make in the wind as a body gets closer to the ground. Sort of a ffffFFFFFRRRAAAPP! type sound.... You can do it with your lips....

Unimpressed


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