Is the tandem passenger an experienced jumper? Would it matter if they were? Im curious to. Even though I am not in a position to educate about this sport I am curious about the safety for new students like myself
Tandems are a great way to introduce someone into this sport, I dont find it funny at all to add an additional risk to an already dangerous activity when dealing with students. Whats the chances that tandem passenger was informed of just how dangerous a hybrid could be, not to mention a hybrid with 2 sit flyers and a camera man?
They know they could die...what's much worse than that?
An instructor adding things to the equation that make the chances of injury or death magnified. An instructor going against the manufactors rules when using gear that is designed to carry two people. As and instructor do you truely feel that this picture is in the best interest of the passenger? Yes they will think its cool, but ya know, that first jump is cool enough without risking their life MORE then it already is.
I think Id rather students have less an experience in the air if it means adding so much unknowns that are proven to be dangerous for experienced jumpers. Maybe I am wrong, I am not an instructor, and never plan to be. However I am a student, and I have gotten family and other wuffos to do tandems and if I was on a DZ with one and I heard about a dive flow like this, I would pack our shit and leave.
Skydiving is scarey enough and exciting enough to where people shouldnt do stupid shit with a wuffo.
So , in the name of a cool picture would you be okay with someone with 50 jumps swooping... after all IF they are okay, it will make a cool picture. Or someone with 15 jumps doing a Crew jump because after all its a cool picture? Or what about 2 someones with 10,000 jumps playing a game of "chicken" in a low pull contest because after all, the picture would be "cool" from the ground, to see people so close yet still in freefall.
Skydiving isnt safe. However to add risk to someone who does not know better, to me does not deserve to be a instructor and IF a fatality occured it would be EASY to be sued since one can not waiver negligence. And "It is a cool picture" would not be a defence to "your daughter died because the the hangers reserve deployed, but we have a cool picture of right before hand... heres a copy"
"A cool picture" will not be enough to warrent the life of a STUDENT. EVER. I dont care how many jumps all those people had or how much experience or how much they really wanted that "cool picture"
And that's YOUR opinion. I'm not going to sit here and argue OPINIONS. It could go on for days and nobody would win. All skydivers have a different view of what is safe and what is dangerous and that is a FACT.
(This post was edited by Kimblair13 on Feb 28, 2006, 5:42 PM)
Lets see, since I am a low jumper I dont know ALL the things that are a potential danger but I do know SOME of them.... and it has LITTLE to do with the tandem masters gear (except they are breaking the rules of use stated by the manufactors)
1. Hanger can have a reserve deployment. Possibly (more then likely) kill ALL THREE in the hybrid
2. Hanger can become un-stable and cork and hurt or kill the passenger and themselves
3. The higher speeds can cause problems as well. Which i learned this because I am considering my first hybrid and sought information on them.
Im sure there are issues that the people in the sit bring as well, and that they are posing an additional danger to the tandem passenger, but like I said, I myself am only a student and a customer, what would I know.