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87SupraT  (Student)

Nov 16, 2005, 12:46 PM
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Anytime I export my sequence I always get a black margin around the video. So when I full screen it the video is barely bigger than it's orignal size. I have tried exporting as movie and using the media encorder. I did WMV, MPG, and AVI formats. MPG1 gave me the best quality per file size, but I still have these black margins keeping the video from fully resizing itself in a media player. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

Dale


dragon2  (D 101989)

Nov 16, 2005, 12:50 PM
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I'm not entirely sure what you're doing... The safe margins are for TV. You need to make a video that's full screen, so beyond the safe margins in Premiere. If there's a possibility prople will watch your vid on TV, any titles and stuff need to be inside the safe margins, and the footage will get cut off a bit around the edges. But for watching on a pc, you need to fill the entire frame.


87SupraT  (Student)

Nov 16, 2005, 1:09 PM
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I see, well I don't know how to describe it then. The video resolution says 720x480. It really is that size but the the actual video is probably 320x240 and it is filling in the rest with just black. So when I full screen it the 720 is sctrectched so much and the little 320 video is only strecthed to 500 something max. I can't get the video to fill the entire 720x480. Does that help a little more?

Dale


mccordia  (D 94775)

Nov 17, 2005, 2:58 AM
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You need to go to the clips effect properties, and then use the 'scale' function, and scale the clip (probably slightly over 200%)
If you get weird horizontal edges, you may also need to deinterlace the clip (clip>field options>always deinterlace)

How come your captured video is only 320x240?
This is not a standard size for video-editing/capture?


jtval  (D 26340)

Nov 17, 2005, 5:31 AM
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Its odd that the picture would small- is it only about half the screen? HOw much of a wide angle lens are youy using?

I forget the technical term for it but if you use a wide angel lens(thats too wide for your camera) when you you will get a black ring around your video.

if your video is ACTUALLY only 320X240 then your video settings may be the culprit. wouldnt know why its set that way, or how.

you can also check your EXPORT options. MAke sure you are exporting a full quality video


87SupraT  (Student)

Nov 17, 2005, 7:24 AM
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In reply to:
You need to go to the clips effect properties, and then use the 'scale' function, and scale the clip (probably slightly over 200%)
If you get weird horizontal edges, you may also need to deinterlace the clip (clip>field options>always deinterlace)

How come your captured video is only 320x240?
This is not a standard size for video-editing/capture?

I couldn't find clips effect properties, I am pretty new to Adobe Premier. I do see how to deinterlace the cip. What benefits are there to deinterlacing it?

I havn't captured video with Premier yet, I am trying to edit existing clips I have.

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Its odd that the picture would small- is it only about half the screen? HOw much of a wide angle lens are youy using?

I forget the technical term for it but if you use a wide angel lens(thats too wide for your camera) when you you will get a black ring around your video.

if your video is ACTUALLY only 320X240 then your video settings may be the culprit. wouldnt know why its set that way, or how.

I don't own a nice camera at the time, working on getting a PC105. I am just editing existing video clips I have already. The clips I am using though are 320x240, so I figured Premier would resize it when I am trying to compile it as 720x480, but I guess not.

Thanks guys, I am still tinkering with it.

Dale


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Nov 17, 2005, 9:10 AM
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If you are working with 320 clips you can assume that they have been recompressed vesion off something else. When you start upscalling them they will get distorted and blocky looking. Expecially if you are trying to save them for playback on TV.

Basically... work in a 320-240 project unless you want things to get distorted. Even then you will not be able to play it back at full screen.

I HIGHLY recommend getting a Premiere book if you are going to get into video editing. Read it before you start to play with the software and it will greatly assist you in understanding basic fundimentals like interlacing, layering and scaling.


jtval  (D 26340)

Nov 17, 2005, 12:27 PM
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T HInk what Eric said was RTFMSlyTongueTongue


I am guilty of not RTFM, too. It took a while and some research to get the gist of it but there are plenty of threads in here to learn form.


if you are not using raw video you are going to be limited in what you can do with the file you have, expecially if you are looking to keep the quality.


alw  (C 35179)

Nov 18, 2005, 4:58 PM
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the safe margin lines are just guides - text inside the smallest box, action inside the largest box. They don't do anything. Using the guides will ensure that the "overscan" on the TV doesn't hide your product.

If you go from 320x240 to DV NTSC (720x480) you'll be under or over OR you'll distort the aspect ratio (Horizontal dimension/verticle dimension).

Check the Help menu for "Resizing video" and be prepared to suffer the quality loss.

A good trick to fool your eye is to adjust gamma and contrast then add a little "sharpen" filter. The picture isn't any better but your eyes think it's sharper.

If you are going for something to win friends and influence people - or just want to learn some neat tricks with low res video source Play With The Effects!!!

Put four streams on four different timelines and move them to the 4 corners. There is an effect that does that but that would mess up your already bad resolution.

Another traick is to create a bitmap frame with a true blue center. Then play with the chroma key to frame the 320x240 shot. You'll learn loads about keying.

Premiere is a powerful tool and the best stuff isn't going to be in a book - it's the creativity that you employ to overcome marginal content. Play - have fun - learn. When you get your camera you'll have the skills to do some pretty cool stuff, even without all the expensive plug-ins (which by the way, pretty much do automatically what you can do manually with the base software.



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