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thrillisgone25  (C 34508)

Apr 20, 2005, 5:58 PM
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Has anyone had any expirience with the Vigil? Any pros/cons to the Cypress?


firstime  (B 28972)

Apr 20, 2005, 6:08 PM
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there are tons of posts on this, do a search


Premier Tonto  (D 515)
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Apr 21, 2005, 12:44 AM
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I've used Cypreses for 12 years.

I used a Vigil in a spare, spare rig last year. Both my Cypres 1's "retire" this year. I'll be replacing them with Vigils.

t


Premier slotperfect  (D 13014)

Apr 21, 2005, 2:43 AM
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Search results

Happy reading! Smile


redknight

Apr 25, 2005, 2:29 PM
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As "firstime" said, there are tons of posts on this subject.
Visit the website : www.vigil.aero
And/or search in "Forum" for "VIGIL"

I used a "cypres1" from 1992 to 2004
Had to be replaced after 12 years
Since then I'm using VIGIL
NO regrets


(This post was edited by redknight on Apr 25, 2005, 2:32 PM)


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Oct 6, 2005, 10:12 AM
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Are any schools using Vigils?
How are they holding up to being abused by students?


Mostly_Harmless  (C 35480)

Oct 6, 2005, 10:20 AM
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SDLI is using them on some of there tandems. I have a vigil installed on my rig. 20 year life span, no routine maintenance, the battery can be replaced by your rigger (I believe), great little unit. The vigil was recommended to me by my rigger and art from the skydive store.


kelpdiver  (B 7)

Oct 6, 2005, 12:41 PM
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In reply to:
I have a vigil installed on my rig. 20 year life span, no routine maintenance,

So far the unit isn't old enough to have skipped a 4 year type cycle. We'll see how it ends up. If lots of units start failing their self check at year X, they may change up.

I believe Hollister is using them on at least some rigs, though the ones I rented were Cypres. Last year a vigil save was reported here.


jurgencamps  (D License)

Oct 7, 2005, 1:48 AM
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Texel, Netherlands.
PCV, Belgium


packing_jarrett  (D License)

Oct 8, 2005, 6:48 PM
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A friend of mine just got a vigil and put about 200 jumps on it. Just today it wouldn't turn on. He asked me to come and look at it and with much trying I finally got it to turn on. it said it was set for pro and ready to go. My friend and I did a 2 way and we broke off and he had a aad fire at 2500 as he was pulling his pilot chute!!! luckily he slowed down enough so it didn't open but still. sending it to the factory to get that free cutter replacment and to see whats wrong with it.


chutem  (A 45827)

Oct 9, 2005, 8:36 AM
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I don't understand how he could slow down enough so it didn't open if he had an aad fire. Are you saying that the cutter failed to cut the reserve closeing loop?
James


nate_1979  (B 27889)

Oct 9, 2005, 12:41 PM
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after reading that a few times I think (and am probably wrong) he probably had a fire and slowed down enough to not deploy the main? Even that seems kinda odd though...Crazy


chutem  (A 45827)

Oct 9, 2005, 12:51 PM
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I think I understand, slowed enough from res. opening that main pilot chute did not open main container?
James


nate_1979  (B 27889)

Oct 9, 2005, 12:53 PM
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In reply to:
I think I understand, slowed enough from res. opening that main pilot chute did not open main container?
James

That's what I got out of what he posted Wink But who knows.. I look forward to more details...


packing_jarrett  (D License)

Oct 9, 2005, 8:27 PM
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when I say "he slowed down" i mean his vigil had fired, and he had a reserve. then you would ask why did he pull the pilot chute...? well he thought he had horse shoe malf. so he pulled. but when he looked up and saw the reserve he started pulling in his pilot chute(the pilot chute didn't deploy the main)
Hope that cleared the confusion. this is hard to put into words.


skydiverton  (D 123456789)

Oct 9, 2005, 11:29 PM
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In reply to:
A friend of mine just got a vigil and put about 200 jumps on it. Just today it wouldn't turn on. He asked me to come and look at it and with much trying I finally got it to turn on. it said it was set for pro and ready to go. My friend and I did a 2 way and we broke off and he had a aad fire at 2500 as he was pulling his pilot chute!!! luckily he slowed down enough so it didn't open but still. sending it to the factory to get that free cutter replacment and to see whats wrong with it.

But a sceduled check-up each 4-years is still not required!


Freeflysmiley  (C License)

Oct 10, 2005, 4:48 AM
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I'm sure in time the Vigil will be a nice bit of kit. But 3 misfires that I've heard of... I'll let other people break it in for a few years before I change my Cypres2.Wink


tso-d_chris

Oct 10, 2005, 6:25 AM
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In reply to:
A friend of mine just got a vigil and put about 200 jumps on it. Just today it wouldn't turn on. He asked me to come and look at it and with much trying I finally got it to turn on. it said it was set for pro and ready to go. My friend and I did a 2 way and we broke off and he had a aad fire at 2500 as he was pulling his pilot chute!!! luckily he slowed down enough so it didn't open but still. sending it to the factory to get that free cutter replacment and to see whats wrong with it

Let us know what the manufacturer says. It sounds as though the unit was inadvertently set to tandem mode.


packing_jarrett  (D License)

Oct 10, 2005, 7:32 AM
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yes thats what we think too.


HSPScott  (D 22285)

Oct 12, 2005, 10:23 AM
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Just remember that Cypres had problems when they started. Back then there wasn't the www to spread the info as fast.


NickDG  (D 8904)

Oct 12, 2005, 10:59 AM
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Yes there was a net back then. Type Cypres, (or Cypress as some couldn't spell it) into this search box and you'll get many Cypres related posts from the early nineties.

http://www.recskydiving.org/search.asp

NickD Smile
BASE 194


kelpdiver  (B 7)

Oct 12, 2005, 11:41 AM
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In reply to:
Yes there was a net back then. Type Cypres, (or Cypress as some couldn't spell it) into this search box and you'll get many Cypres related posts from the early nineties.

http://www.recskydiving.org/search.asp

USENET existed, but a much smaller population had access to it. Services like prodigy, msn, aol didn't join the internet for a few more years. It was glorious!

Figure 94 or 95 for the birth of www. And perhaps 2000 or beyond for useful searching.


Mattias  (D 11903)

Oct 12, 2005, 1:26 PM
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There were good reasons why two countries didn't certify the vigil and I know one of them have not done so yet. I would find out why if I were you.


mattjw916  (D License)

Oct 12, 2005, 4:22 PM
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Care to share them? Unimpressed


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Oct 12, 2005, 5:57 PM
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1 reason it was Germany. Once the "protection of territory" was legally worked through then Germany didn't object any more.

Skydiving ran a good article on the Vigil.

We will hear the same baseless complaints when the ARGUS AAD is released to the public.


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