Mar 31, 2005, 2:31 AM
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Hi Guys, me and my colleague were discussing what winds us up the most, things like, jumpers asking if we can examine thier main closing loop, or questions that start with "Do you have 5 minutes", because we all know that it take about three quarters of an hour to do a five minute job.
A rigger we know once got asked to patch a crossport vent. Or how about the time I got a canopy with a note on it saying hole in tail. to find after 20 mins of inspection the hole was in the nose.
Over to you guys!
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Mar 31, 2005, 3:46 AM
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Calling you groundmonkeys.
Most all riggers I've called that have been visibly upset by it. All I know is that every second you spend packing, patching, sewing... - you're not jumping.
Mar 31, 2005, 5:03 AM
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A rigger we know once got asked to patch a crossport vent.(quote)
If it was a main, I would have put a hot pink one on it and charged them 50 bucks and put a note in the data card to let them know their a dumbass, then charged them at least 35 to pick it out later. The customer is always right, right? LOL
Mar 31, 2005, 5:19 AM
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Customers who expect to pay next to nothing for our services. These are often the same customers that say "hay I've got this real quick booty repair I need done"
Mar 31, 2005, 6:29 AM
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Which reminds me of a similar incident at our DZ. A young, up and coming jumper called me over in a panic! His brand new Sabre had 'big holes in it'. I politely, explained 'cross-porting'!
Mar 31, 2005, 7:12 AM
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We got a master rigger at my dz who has been jumping 50 years, he has a dolphin and tacked down his reserve risers with 6lb cord. it was real funny to hear the "new kids" talk to the dzo about trying to ground him because of his dangerous rig and bad rigging on his rig. I tease him all the time about it.
Mar 31, 2005, 7:56 AM
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Hi Guys, me and my colleague were discussing what winds us up the most, things like, jumpers asking if we can examine thier main closing loop, or questions that start with "Do you have 5 minutes", because we all know that it take about three quarters of an hour to do a five minute job.
A rigger we know once got asked to patch a crossport vent. Or how about the time I got a canopy with a note on it saying hole in tail. to find after 20 mins of inspection the hole was in the nose.
Over to you guys!
Non riggers who try to pass themselves off as technichly proficent in the art and have never packed a reserve let alone have the skill to sew. If you are going to give advise to someone, get the rating to prove that you can really do it. The same thing bugs me about non rated instructors giving students advice on equipment choice/ instructional technique etc. Once again if you want to give advice to people, get the rating.
Mar 31, 2005, 8:27 AM
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Non riggers who try to pass themselves off as technichly proficent in the art and have never packed a reserve let alone have the skill to sew. If you are going to give advise to someone, get the rating to prove that you can really do it. The same thing bugs me about non rated instructors giving students advice on equipment choice/ instructional technique etc. Once again if you want to give advice to people, get the rating.
Hmmm...Do you have any grey area in that peeve? e.g. folks who have a fair amount of packing experience and equipment knowledge but don't know how to sew?
Mar 31, 2005, 9:08 AM
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Other riggers who don't take the time to put relevent info on data cards, so I have to call the customer and argue about having to send in a cypres for service or change the batteries.
Mar 31, 2005, 9:34 AM
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Non riggers who try to pass themselves off as technichly proficent in the art and have never packed a reserve let alone have the skill to sew. If you are going to give advise to someone, get the rating to prove that you can really do it. The same thing bugs me about non rated instructors giving students advice on equipment choice/ instructional technique etc. Once again if you want to give advice to people, get the rating.
Hmmm...Do you have any grey area in that peeve? e.g. folks who have a fair amount of packing experience and equipment knowledge but don't know how to sew?
Blues, Dave
Hi Dave,
I do, and will (from my perspective) make concessions on a case by case basis. Example, People like JP or Frank @ SQ1 who are not rated but, due to the nature of their professions have an enormous data base about the subject @ hand. Also knowing these guys as I do, I know that they are fully aware of where their technical limitations end. The issue I have is with the lesser experienced (time in sport, ratings,exposure to a variety of unusual things(time in sport again)) people giving advise as though it were gospel.
Most experienced jumpers are pretty good about limiting what they tell newer people but there are exceptions to this rule. I have seen it too many times when a relativly new jumper trying to make an impression on someone less experienced starts pontificating about subjects that they clearly don't fully understand. I can be very dangerous to the newer jumper. The motivations behind this behaviour are usually the same, either an ego boost or a way to score with the new student ( nearly always female).
I have to admit over two and a half decades in this sport it is nearly (close to 100%) always males who exibit this type of behaviour.
Like I said this is only MY perception of how things are. I don't mean to cram this down anyones throat.
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