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Poll: I'm getting a new rig
Javelin Odyssey 55 / 42%
Wings 77 / 58%
132 total votes
 
Amanduh

Mar 24, 2005, 7:00 AM
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These are the two rigs I am stuck between getting right now. If you prefer one over the other please let me know why. Pro's & Con's of each, etc.

Thanks!!!!


ScottMcC  (D 24099)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:01 AM
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They're both awesome rigs. I liked the way the wings fit me compared to the javelin, but this is purely personal preference.


Squeak  (E 1313)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:07 AM
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You REALLY want a Vector 3SmileSmile


davelepka  (D 21448)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:16 AM
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If you're buying new, and intend to use an RSL, the Vector III with a Skyhook is a good choice.

If the Skyhook isn't your thing, look into an Infinty as well. I just got one, and the build time was SHORT, the cust service was A-1, the price was good, and the finished product was very nice. I've inspected many rigs, inside and out, and this one is as good or better than any I've seen. Very well constructed and nicely finished.


EricaH  (D License)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:16 AM
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Um, I don't have either - but only hear great things about Wings & it's less expensive & it has all the optinos Jav's have.


skybeergodd

Mar 24, 2005, 7:45 AM
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I second and third all the votes for a Vector 3...(Micron Baby!!!!!WOOHOO)...but if your gonna choose between a Wings or a Javelin...be nice to your rigger and go with the Javelin. He will love you alot more for that choice.


kelel01  (A License)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:48 AM
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I love my Wings, and I personally prefer the up-tucking main flap compared to the main flap design on Javelins and Infinities.

Wings is cheaper, too.

Just take in everybody's opinions and decide what's important to you! Smile


skygod7777  (D 24081)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:49 AM
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both are great rigs, but i really like the wings (i'm on my third). the price is cheaper and the delivery time is shorter than the jav.

in my opinion i think the wings is more comfortable, but that's just my opinion.

later


KCJumper  (C 34189)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:54 AM
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I love my wings. They are so comfortable under canopy and even when just waiting for a load. I have owned a javelin and a vector 2. Out of the 3 I like my Wings the best. Just my 2 cents though. Good luck on deciding.

Patrick


Fab  (C License)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:54 AM
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The wings..Awesome rig...but with everything in this sport...it's a personal choice Wink
+ point of the wings are lower price and delivery time.


nicknitro71  (D 26704)

Mar 24, 2005, 7:56 AM
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be nice to your rigger and go with the Javelin

where does that come from? I find both rigs to pack just as easily.

I own both and I like the Wings better for the following reasons (all my opinions by the way so don't flame awayWink):

-Better design yoke, reserve top flap, and riser covers.

-Better main top flap, tucks up and under.

-Better wrap around corners, jav don't have them.

-Stronger reserve front risers, newer jav use type 6 instead of type 7. Wings use type 7.

-Better articulation without the need of chest d-rings.

-Better design reverve free-bag.

-Beefier cutway handle.

-Better looks Tongue

-Not to mention cheeper and faster delivery time.

-Some riggers have problems making the reserve PC sitting right on the Wings. I don't find this problem.

Don't get me wrong, the Jav is a fine rig but I think the Wings is superior.


(This post was edited by nicknitro71 on Mar 24, 2005, 8:00 AM)


AndyMan  (D 25698)

Mar 24, 2005, 8:04 AM
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Why limit yourself to those two options?

In my ever-so-humble opinion, the Javelin has the second most outdated design of all the rigs on the market, specifically the main closing flap. Strangely, it's one of the more expensive rigs on the market.

The Wings has a better design and it's also one of the least expensive rigs, but it doesn't have the option for chest rings.

The Aerodyne Icon, RWS Vector III, and the Mirage are all in the same price-range of the Javelin, and have superior main closing flaps, and a hidden reserve poptop. Why rule out those three options?

_Am


tdog  (D 28800)

Mar 24, 2005, 8:18 AM
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If you're buying new, and intend to use an RSL, the Vector III with a Skyhook is a good choice.

If the Skyhook isn't your thing, look into an Infinty as well. I just got one, and the build time was SHORT, the cust service was A-1, the price was good, and the finished product was very nice. I've inspected many rigs, inside and out, and this one is as good or better than any I've seen. Very well constructed and nicely finished.

Dave,

I have about 3900 jumps less than you, but I agree.Tongue

I know a lot of high jump individuals who praise the RSL as either the only RSL they would jump or as the RSL of their next rig.

I am not a big Javelin fan after jumping one for about 10 jumps. It just did not fit me (even though it was sized right for me.) That I think is completely body size/shape, like I can’t wear Reebok but can wear Nikes.

After jumping a bunch of rentals/demos, I narrowed it down to Infinity and Vector (I never had the opportunity to jump a Wings)

I also found the Infinity staff to be exceptional, and the demo unit I jumped for a weekend was awesome… In retrospect, I think I would have gotten an Infinity over the Vector because of all the hassles I had on the ordering of the Vector… For an example, my new Vector was shipped late AND without the freebag and reserve PC… Kind of a major oversight in my opinion that I find hard to explain. Add that to the fact they added weeks to the estimated delivery after they had my money, I lost faith in the company’s customer support… Not to say I lost faith in the technology.


(This post was edited by tdog on Mar 24, 2005, 8:20 AM)


pbla4024  (C 2033)

Mar 24, 2005, 8:25 AM
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And which one is first most outdated design of all the rigs on the market?


Brains  (D License)

Mar 24, 2005, 8:28 AM
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Ok, i'll be the bastard Devil:
ALCHEMY= Javelin
ANOMALY=Wings
Who won nationals?TongueLaugh
Coincidence? I think not.LaughTongue

In all seriousness, i jump Javelins. That is my choice. I have put some jumps on wings rigs and i liked them. I have several friends that jump wings and i have never seen or heard anything bad about them. I would go with what you think is best for you. I don't think you could go wrong with either one.Smile


AndyMan  (D 25698)

Mar 24, 2005, 8:30 AM
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Personally, in my not-so-humble opinion, that would be the Racer. Feel free to disagree.

_Am


nicknitro71  (D 26704)

Mar 24, 2005, 8:49 AM
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Personally, in my not-so-humble opinion, that would be the Racer. Feel free to disagree.

Have you taken a close look in person to the 2K3?


JGarcia  (D 20653)

Mar 24, 2005, 8:58 AM
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Hi Amanduh,

In the 9+ years I've spent in the sport I've jumped Dolphin, Javelin, Jav Odyssey, Vector II, Vector III, Talon II, Quasar, Eclipse, Racer, Mirage, Atom Legend, and Wings. After I jumped a friend's Wings, I loved it so much that I became a dealer for them!Laugh

In my experience (and my opinion), you cannot beat the quality, comfort, workmanship, and price of the Wings container. Their custumer service is awesome and their delivery time is ridiculous. Right now it's at 6 to 8 weeks...with most closer to the 6 week mark.

PM me if you want to know more details... I'm not sure if we got a chance to meet at Dublin, but I was the guy who had the cut-away/reserve ride last load of the day Saturday flying the Birdman Suit (with my trusty Wings H/C system)Wink. LOL... or you may remember me form the bonfire Sat nite as the guy wearing the string of shamrocks wrapped around my chest and arms, no shirt. Shocked. Angelic

Cheers!

--Jairo


(This post was edited by JGarcia on Mar 24, 2005, 9:03 AM)


Premier PhreeZone  (D License)
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Mar 24, 2005, 12:04 PM
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Word I heard at Dublin is that Sunpath is working on new secondary riser covers similar to the Micron. If they work out then Jav has one more thing going for them.

If I was to order a rig today Bill Booth would be getting my business. He already build my GF's rig. Smile


johnny1488  (D 25453)

Mar 24, 2005, 12:19 PM
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Sunpath unvieled the new internal riser covers at the symposium. They are almost identical to the infinity internal riser covers. I think they become standars on april 1st, along with new beefier handles standard and new toggles and dive loops as "swoop options".


Tink1717  (D 12524)

Mar 24, 2005, 12:47 PM
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I have owned both Javelin and Wings. I am a rigger and for my money, Wings is it. They are more comfortable than Javelins and cost less with a better delivery time. I bought my first Wings as a second system. It fit so much better that the Javelin that I gutted the Javelin and bought a second Wings. PM me if you want more details.Smile


Amanduh

Mar 24, 2005, 1:03 PM
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I appreciate all responses. I am not limitied to these two. I have been jumping a Javelin Odyssey and I love it. I have not jumped anything else. It was just mentioned to me that Wings would be cheaper and fits better. I am new to the sport and I trust the people that recommended the wings, but I know I've jumped the Javelin and love it. I don't know anythign else (Fit wise, etc).

If any of you would like to give me more detailed words of wisdom PLEASE send me a PM at your will. I am using this information for myself, and myself only.

I appreciate all responses! Thank you!!!!


voodew1  (D 25988)

Mar 24, 2005, 1:29 PM
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ICON?

I have 2 Javs and 1 Icon -- The Icon is just as comfortable and has better pin protection --
Comes fully loaded--stainless/hip rings/cut-in lats -you've seen the ads and delivery is 12 weeks

If only they were more flexible with the color patterns it would be one of the top rigs on the market


Fab  (C License)

Mar 24, 2005, 1:34 PM
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There are no cut in laterals for the Icon I5 and the I6. Most probably the size he's going to order. The I4 is for a 135-150 main I believe and is the biggest container which has cut-in-laterals.


verticalflyer66  (D License)

Mar 24, 2005, 3:36 PM
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Mirage G4 rules the sky

Cool


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