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barroch  (A License)

Mar 16, 2005, 1:50 PM
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Hello,

I was just wondering guys, what is the minimum requirement to start training as a tandem master? Thing is I just travelled round Australia and I am looking to get permanent residancy and the Tandem market is huge over there. There is nothing I would like more than jumping out with Swedish chicks strapped to me for a living!

My plan is to work up to Tandem Master status in the UK and move over to Oz. I know it is a long way off but I'm the type of person that needs a plan in life and a target to aim for and if I know what I hav to do it will not seem as so much of a mamoth task!

I would appreciate any ideas, suggestions and information!

Hope everyone is ok and blue skies to everyone!

Bazza Tongue

egons  (D 24231)

Mar 16, 2005, 2:06 PM
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Australia have their own set of guide lines for tandem certification. Should you wish to get a RWS rating this will be the minimum that the Tandem I/E will require from you. Keep in mind that Australia might have higher requirements.

Before beginning this program, an applicant for Tandem
Instructor Training must:
1. Currently possess, or at one time been issued, a USPA Static Line Instructor rating, AFF
Jumpmaster or Instructor rating, or a USPA IAD Instructor rating or foreign equivalent.
Those candidates with a Static Line or IAD Jumpmaster rating must also attend a USPA
BIC/Coach before attending a tandem certification course.
2. Have logged at least 500 ram-air jumps and 3 years experience in sport parachuting.
3. Hold a current FAA Class 1, 2, or 3 Medical Certificate or foreign equivalent.
4. Hold a current USPA D license (expert) or foreign equivalent.
5. Be at least 18 years of age.

Hope this helps. The requirment most tend to forget is the 3 years in the sport!

Cheers
Egon

D22369  (D 22369)

Mar 16, 2005, 4:11 PM
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There is nothing I would like more than jumping out with Swedish chicks strapped to me for a living!
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Uh huh........ for each of them, you get ten sweaty guys.... Crazy

Roy

TALONSKY  (D License)

Mar 16, 2005, 4:16 PM
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Uh huh........ for each of them, you get ten sweaty guys.... Crazy

Roy

Or 230 plus pound women. There is nothing like hooking up to someone who has the harness near maxed out on all adjustments to make you never want to eat again or just plan go get sick.

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barroch  (A License)

Mar 16, 2005, 4:39 PM
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Cheers for that dude! Spoze I better get jumping!!

AggieDave  (D License)

Mar 16, 2005, 11:16 PM
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Or 230 plus pound women. There is nothing like hooking up to someone who has the harness near maxed out on all adjustments to make you never want to eat again or just plan go get sick.

I call those chicks "flow-ers."

Since every time you adjust the harness, they seem to flow around the straps...and make you shudder.ShockedUnsureLaughTongue

freefalle  (D 27777)

Mar 17, 2005, 1:15 AM
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Dave, there is absoutely NO NEED for the mental image you just created.

Premier cpoxon  (D 11665)
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Mar 17, 2005, 3:58 AM
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Spoze I better get jumping!!

You better had! According to Section 4 (Instructors) Para 5 (Tandem Instructor) Sub-Para 5.1 (Requirements) of the BPA Operations Manual

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5.1.2. A minimum of 800 descents and 8 hours of free fall time.

Good luck!

LukeOliver  (F 600)

Mar 17, 2005, 3:49 PM
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Australia have their own set of guide lines for tandem certification.

Broadly:
"E" License (500 jump minimum)
Private Pilot's medical
Instructor Rating
Then:
Written examinations
Practical examinations
Grilling from a panel of instructors
Ten structured tandem jumps under VERY close supervision

It's not an easy road. But you get customers who do make it all very worthwhile.

L.

martin-o  (D 13229)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:16 AM
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Hello,

There is nothing I would like more than jumping out with Swedish chicks strapped to me for a living!

Bazza Tongue

Well... I'm a Tandemmaster in Sweden and I must say that I belive there is more of them here than in Austrailia ;).

Liemberg  (Student)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:54 AM
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There is nothing I would like more than jumping out with Swedish chicks strapped to me for a living!
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Uh huh........ for each of them, you get ten sweaty guys....

Let the kid have his dreams for god's sake!

I have a vision of myself in the moderate climate of New Zealand, jumping out of a nice PAC750XL with small japanese female tourists strapped to me, each of them graciously bowing after the jump, charmingly gigling and giving me a huge fee! Also there will be a paying trainee (barroch?) that listens eagerly to all my wise words in the evening at the bar while during daytime packing my tandemrig again and again and again...

I'm sure some of the readers here can give me a reality check.... don't bother! Tongue

martin-o  (D 13229)

Mar 18, 2005, 3:44 AM
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, jumping out of a nice PAC750XL Tongue

This just keeps geting better and better. Not only do I do Tandems in Sweden, my club just got its new pac750xl delivered a week ago.

Going by the standards of you guys I must be the luckiest man alive Cool

bodypilot1  (D 16037)

Mar 18, 2005, 9:14 AM
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, jumping out of a nice PAC750XL Tongue

This just keeps geting better and better. Not only do I do Tandems in Sweden, my club just got its new pac750xl delivered a week ago.

Going by the standards of you guys I must be the luckiest man alive Cool

Keep us posted on your thoughts after you have done tandems out of the PAC?

Unless your a midget, the door is way too short to enjoy getting out of. Wink


Ed

martin-o  (D 13229)

Mar 18, 2005, 10:14 AM
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Keep us posted on your thoughts after you have done tandems out of the PAC?

Unless your a midget, the door is way too short to enjoy getting out of. Wink


Ed

I havent jumped the plane yet but I've tried the door on the ground and It's not the tallest one I've seen but I wouldn't think it's a problem... and since I only jump with small swedish chicks it will be fine
Wink

kissrg  (D 225000)

Mar 18, 2005, 1:30 PM
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Keep us posted on your thoughts after you have done tandems out of the PAC?

Unless your a midget, the door is way too short to enjoy getting out of. Wink

It seems to me getting out not so difficult for bigger ones Cool

Robert
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bodypilot1  (D 16037)

Mar 18, 2005, 1:46 PM
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It seems to me getting out not so difficult for bigger ones Cool

Unless you were seated in that postion from take off, IMO you can't tell anyone that has done tandems out of an Otter, Sky Van, Casa, or King Air, that the PAC a plane that is easier on the body for a TI to get of.

But that just my opinion, give me a taller door anyday. Wink


Keepin' it safe!
Ed

Liemberg  (Student)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:33 PM
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give me a taller door anyday. Wink

Ah, but imagine getting that passenger in the picture out of our trusted C 182..., then with the PAC 750 even in Sweden you've arived in tandemmasters heaven.

Doable in C 182? Yes, I guess... Crazy
(if not done 'worse' ones myself, done 'just as bad' from C 182... you almost forget what a joy it is to make another skydive... granted, walking out of a tailgate is always more comfortable...)

But my dream was more with small and gigling asian females sitting on my lap, wearing the jogging shoes of my 10 year old kid since they all arrived on the DZ at high heels... Tongue

Could one 'duckwalk' in a PAC750 ?
Good exercise! Smile

bodypilot1  (D 16037)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:44 PM
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Ah, but imagine getting that passenger in the picture out of our trusted C 182...,
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A guy 6'5" 278lbs was the biggest I have ever taken out of a trusty C182. Our fall rate was 116mph believe it or not. Wink


Ed

tandemphil  (D 26626)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:54 PM
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We call those women "two fisters" because you can fit two fists between thier shoulders and the harness after the chute opens.

Deuce  (D 25597)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:57 PM
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Nah, I disagree.

In the 182 (I've done tandems out of Davis's/Skydance's) you ride up with the door closed and the passenger secured against the firewall, and at altitude you turn them around and then hook up, open the door and depart. Easy and fun.

Problem with the PAC is you're up against the firewall facing aft and have to be secured to the student when the upjumpers prepare to depart. That means lots of scootching over that spar toward that amazing Willie Wonka Room-like tail which just keeps getting smaller as you get closer to the door.

If you have a PAC, it's something you could easily adjust to. But for those of us experienced with the other popular planes, it's a harder exit.

bodypilot1  (D 16037)

Mar 18, 2005, 3:05 PM
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Willie Wonka Room-like tail which just keeps getting smaller as you get closer to the door.

It sucks for getting out of in a wingsuit also. Wink


Keepin' it safe!
Ed

AggieDave  (D License)

Mar 18, 2005, 8:01 PM
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We call those women "two fisters" because you can fit two fists between thier shoulders and the harness after the chute opens

Bwahahahaha!

Man, I know what you're talking about, that's funny!



As for big guys in a 182...I took my cousin on a tandem about a year ago who is just under 6'8" out of our trusty 182. Honestly, it wasn't a big deal, not very hard. I haven't taken any nearly 300lbs people on a tandem since I'm a "big 'ol boy" myself and the gear isn't rated that high.Wink

We now have a grand caravan with stradle benches so it doesn't really matter anymore. Wink

JohnMitchell  (D 6462)

Mar 20, 2005, 8:33 PM
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I call those chicks "flow-ers."

Since every time you adjust the harness, they seem to flow around the straps...and make you shudder.ShockedUnsureLaughTongue
After opening you lean forward, look waaay down inside the harness by your kneecaps, and say "So, did ya have a good time?"Laugh

ernokaikkonen  (D 12)

Mar 23, 2005, 7:14 PM
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After opening you lean forward, look waaay down inside the harness by your kneecaps, and say "So, did ya have a good time?"

And then wonder "How the hell am I going to adjust the harness so her bum doesn't hit the ground before my feet?"Crazy Ugh.

riggerrob  (D 14840)

Mar 25, 2005, 7:53 AM
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Problem with the PAC is you're up against the firewall facing aft and have to be secured to the student when the up jumpers prepare to depart. That means lots of scootching over that spar

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I thought that PAC 750s came stock with straddle (bobsled) style benches. Straddle benches have been used in jump planes for more than a decade now, ergo there is no excuse for groveling about on the floor.
If your DZO is too busy, make your own straddle benches out of styrofoam, wrapped in vinyl.

At a bare minimum, ask your DZO to install a bench level with the spar in the front part of the cabin.

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