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steve1  (D 23640)

Jan 23, 2005, 2:36 PM
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This picture shows an old Travel Air that we jumped out of in Missoula about 75. I doubt if any of these are still flying. They were once used by Johnson's Flying Service for dropping smoke jumpers.....Steve1


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mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jan 23, 2005, 7:51 PM
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No, but I did jump one of these a couple of times.Tongue

Sparky
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packing_jarrett  (D License)

Jan 23, 2005, 9:15 PM
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how many people did it hold and where did you jump out of. Surely not the bomb bay because military versions bomb bay was completey exclusive for people getting into in flight.

slug  (B License)

Jan 23, 2005, 11:41 PM
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No, but I did jump one of these a couple of times.Tongue

Sparky

Thanks for the pic sparky.

Wing wars was definately going on, Mostly pigs with a lot of blast handles. Maybe mid to later 70's? One of my dorment periodsFrown

BTW nice looking birdTongue

R.I.P.

mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jan 24, 2005, 1:06 AM
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how many people did it hold and where did you jump out of. Surely not the bomb bay because military versions bomb bay was completey exclusive for people getting into in flight.


We took 22. On this one you could get to the bomb bay from the back compartment by climbing over a bulkhead about 5 feet high. The bomb bay door were locked open. Some people exited through the crew hatch just behind the nose gear, three rode up in the bomb bay and the rest came over the back bulkhead. On my first jump I was part of the group in the back compartment and on the second one I was in the bomb bay. You had to straddle it, one foot one each side and hang onto the bombracks. On take off it was scary as hell. Out of 22 we got six people together on the first jump and only 3 on the second. It was a ZOO. But fun.

Slug,

Without digging out old logbooks I would say late 1978 or early 1979.

Sparky

Premier SkymonkeyONE  (D 12501)

Jan 24, 2005, 7:52 AM
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Did you put the requisite "Z" in your logbook? New skydivers have absolutely no idea what that letter or any of the other commonly used acronyms stand for.

Dougiefresh  (Student)

Jan 24, 2005, 7:56 AM
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You had to straddle it, one foot one each side and hang onto the bombracks. On take off it was scary as hell.

ShockedShockedShocked
Holy crap, you guys were hard core!

...now I wanna try... Laugh

lawrocket  (Student)

Jan 24, 2005, 8:54 AM
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Did you put the requisite "Z" in your logbook? New skydivers have absolutely no idea what that letter or any of the other commonly used acronyms stand for.

I'll bite. I'm new. What does the "Z" stand for?

mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jan 24, 2005, 9:59 AM
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Did you put the requisite "Z" in your logbook? New skydivers have absolutely no idea what that letter or any of the other commonly used acronyms stand for.

No, I wrote out the wrote out the word. From my logbook. "Turned to shit right of the bat, was a Zoo. I caught the base and Rich in third."

Sparky

steve1  (D 23640)

Jan 24, 2005, 11:53 AM
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Hell, I still go Z at times. Not a good thing!....Steve1

steve1  (D 23640)

Jan 24, 2005, 1:10 PM
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I'll bite. I'm new. What does the "Z" stand for?
It's an old Spanish term....It originated with a man named Zorro in Mexico. He used his sword to carve it into people and things to let them know Zorrow had been there.....I think that's it!.....Steve1

steve1  (D 23640)

Jan 24, 2005, 2:31 PM
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No, but I did jump one of these a couple of times.Tongue

Sparky....which one is you?

Premier wmw999  (D 6296)

Jan 24, 2005, 2:39 PM
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I believe Sparky would be dead center, front row. Light-colored hair, right under the letters.

Wendy W.

dqpacker  (D 32043)

Jan 24, 2005, 3:36 PM
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I'll bite. I'm new. What does the "Z" stand for?





ZOO

usedtajump  (D 6813)

Jan 24, 2005, 5:13 PM
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Hey Mojo, where was that B-25 pitcure taken and when? A couple of those people look somewhat familiar and the location and time frame would help place the names with the face.


Godamn mojosparky, you still jump a Sharpchuter?? My compliments. WinkWink

mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jan 24, 2005, 6:17 PM
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I believe Sparky would be dead center, front row. Light-colored hair, right under the letters.

Wendy W.

No more calls, we have a winner. Wendy is right on the money. And the hair was actually light-colored back then.Tongue

The picture was taken late 78 or early 79 and it was taken at Taft airport. Also got to jump an AT-6 that day. Which one or ones are you looking at, maybe I can help.

Sparky

Premier wmw999  (D 6296)

Jan 25, 2005, 5:41 AM
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And if you Z'd (or Z'd out) then you were your own individual little zoo load, all by yourself.

Not that I'd know about that first-hand or anything Tongue

Wendy W.

usedtajump  (D 6813)

Jan 25, 2005, 4:12 PM
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Standing, second from left and kneeling second from right.

mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jan 25, 2005, 6:20 PM
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Standing, second from left and kneeling second from right.

Sorry Steve, I don't know either on of them. After looking at the picture for a few minutes, I dawned on me, I don't know the names of some of the people I do know.Tongue

Its hell getting old.

Sparky

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Jan 26, 2005, 5:32 AM
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ShockedShockedShocked
Holy crap, you guys were hard core!

Were?

Are you implying some sort of backstepping has occured?Tongue

t

Premier SkymonkeyONE  (D 12501)

Jan 26, 2005, 6:18 AM
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Did you put the requisite "Z" in your logbook? New skydivers have absolutely no idea what that letter or any of the other commonly used acronyms stand for.

I'll bite. I'm new. What does the "Z" stand for?

Z is the letter you put in your logbook when you were out of control. Back in the day of little blue logbooks with 10 jumps per page, you just wrote down a series of letters and symbols to show what you did. For example, stylies would often have "RT, LT, BL, LT, RT, BL" and a 45 second delay student might have "RT, LT, BL, FL, and a little triangle "delta" symbol" If you got out of control at any point of your skydive you would insert a "Z" where it occured.

Chuck

Premier Tonto  (D 515)
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Jan 26, 2005, 7:18 AM
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So what's the bet a new newbie will ask "What does RT, LT, BL, LT, RT, BL stand for?"

Do people still know what a full series was?

t

mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jan 26, 2005, 8:20 AM
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Did you put the requisite "Z" in your logbook? New skydivers have absolutely no idea what that letter or any of the other commonly used acronyms stand for.

I'll bite. I'm new. What does the "Z" stand for?

Z is the letter you put in your logbook when you were out of control. Back in the day of little blue logbooks with 10 jumps per page, you just wrote down a series of letters and symbols to show what you did. For example, stylies would often have "RT, LT, BL, LT, RT, BL" and a 45 second delay student might have "RT, LT, BL, FL, and a little triangle "delta" symbol" If you got out of control at any point of your skydive you would insert a "Z" where it occured.

Chuck

What do you mean, back in the days of the little blue logbooks? I still use them. They have change a little, remember when the pages were yellow paper, and you can get them through Para-Gear.Cool

Remember when you had to do a complete series in less then 15 seconds to get you "D" lic.

Sparky
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IanHarrop  (C 1152)

Jan 26, 2005, 10:14 AM
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They have change a little, remember when the pages were yellow paper, and you can get them through Para-Gear.

My first book has green pages.

I don't know what the colour of the paper is now but CSPA still sells something similarSmile.

http://www.cspa.ca/...rchandise/Index.html

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edited cause my computer still hasn't figured out how to translate what I am thinking into proper English when my fingers type on the keyboard.


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slug  (B License)

Jan 26, 2005, 10:31 AM
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So what's the bet a new newbie will ask "What does RT, LT, BL, LT, RT, BL stand for?"

Do people still know what a full series was?

t

Can't a newbie do all that stuff in a tunnel.Angelic

I've never seen a tunnel from in/out sideShocked

R.I.P.

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