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Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Jan 17, 2005, 8:28 AM
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Anyone get a chance to look at the 2 new PD canopies at the PIA?

Anyone got any info on them or pics?

Any other canopy manufacturers have cool new goodies?

Blues,
Ian


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AggieDave  (D License)

Jan 17, 2005, 11:17 AM
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Man, hopefully by 2 new canopies you do mean a Katana 135 and 150. Its been what, a year now?


NeedToJump  (D 27247)

Jan 17, 2005, 11:22 AM
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I only saw one new PD canopy at PIA, but they could have had two and I just missed one.

The one I saw was a new crossbraced canopy called the Z-Brace which results in 5 cells between line groups as oppsed to three cells like a standard cross brace. This results in a 35-cell canopy with the line drag of a 7-cell. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what happens with this canopy! Smile


freeflajankie  (C 334449)

Jan 17, 2005, 11:27 AM
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PD is also showing a new reserve that packs like a napkin.
A pd 143 with this new fabric packs like a regular 106...
It's not out on the market yet. But so far the testing has been good.
The 99 packs really like a pillowcase, cool as shit if you want my opinon.
Ankie


Paige

Jan 17, 2005, 11:31 AM
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Left the camera memory stick in f'in DeLandMad

Both canopies looked really really cool. The new reserve was pretty interesting. I'm sure the Z-brace gets your nads though Laugh Smile Tongue You and Ari.


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Jan 17, 2005, 11:36 AM
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I'm sure the Z-brace gets your nads though You and Ari

I don't want Ari anywhere near my Nads, that's your job!!!

Yeah I spoke to Ian and Chris about the reserve and the zbrace. I'm really interested in seeing pics of the zbrace if you have some...hint hint hint SmileSmileSmile I know both are a ways off from being released, but it's still cool to get all excited about it.

I like the idea of being able to put a 150 in my reserve container too. That is a nice solution to the container reserve sizing issue in regards to small mains.

Blues,
Ian


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Jan 17, 2005, 11:42 AM
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Sorry Dave, I know they are working on them though. Hang in there Wink


Premier PhreeZone  (D License)
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Jan 17, 2005, 11:42 AM
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The pack volume on that Zbrace has to be way up there. Or are they countering it by being creative in the placement of the extra bracing?


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Jan 17, 2005, 11:44 AM
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Phree,

Not entirely sure, but yes I'd imagine the pack volume would go up. Of course who knows what materials they plan on using when they start getting serious about the technology so it's anybodies guess at this point.

As for the bracing, it was described to me by Ian Bobo as "penta-chamber". It's kinda hard to visualize it so I'm excited to see a pic.

Blues,
Ian


AggieDave  (D License)

Jan 17, 2005, 11:44 AM
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Sorry Dave, I know they are working on them though


Won't matter, by the time they're out I'll probably be ready to go to a Velocity anyways. I'm just glad I didn't wait for it when it was announced, I just went ahead and bought my XF2...or I'd be one upset jumper right now.Tongue


johnny1488  (D 25453)

Jan 18, 2005, 12:37 PM
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As I was looking at it Kolla said

"Its nice but its gonna be pricey, but if you need it..."

Definetly a sight seeing the freebags side by side.


SkydiveMO  (D 21338)

Jan 18, 2005, 1:10 PM
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Won't matter, by the time they're out I'll probably be ready to go to a Velocity anyways. I'm just glad I didn't wait for it when it was announced, I just went ahead and bought my XF2

I hear you brother, I'd been waiting on the Katana 135 long enough that when I was finally ready to downsize I went to a crossbraced canopy and bought myself a Xaos. I still look forward to test jumping the 135 and 150 Katana if they are ever released but they're a day late and a dollar short with me.


Dazzle  (D 100794)

Jan 19, 2005, 1:27 AM
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In reply to:
I'd been waiting on the Katana 135 long enough that when I was finally ready to downsize I went to a crossbraced canopy and bought myself a Xaos.

You were waiting on the Katana 135 but went and bought a Xaos 98 instead?!Unsure


SkydiveMO  (D 21338)

Jan 19, 2005, 5:59 AM
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You were waiting on the Katana 135 but went and bought a Xaos 98 instead?

I worked through several other canopies first... I'm crazy, not stupid Wink My working canopy is a Vengeance 135, the Xaos is for swooping fun only. I could jump a Katana 120 but I figure at the higher wing loading might as well go with a crossbraced canopy


katzurki

Jan 19, 2005, 8:12 AM
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In reply to:
PD is also showing a new reserve that packs like a napkin.
A pd 143 with this new fabric packs like a regular 106...
It's not out on the market yet. But so far the testing has been good.
The 99 packs really like a pillowcase, cool as shit if you want my opinon.
Ankie

I somehow find it more exciting than all the z-brace/katana excitement. Does it mean we'll eventually get a reserve that packs 30% smaller than the current ones? Smile


davelepka  (D 21448)

Jan 19, 2005, 8:14 AM
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we'll eventually get a reserve that packs 30% smaller

Which should go nicely with a Z-brace main that packs 30% larger.


Dazzle  (D 100794)

Jan 19, 2005, 9:12 AM
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If you've not been on one yet then do give it a go, fantastic canopy - love mine


Premier SkymonkeyONE  (D 12501)

Jan 19, 2005, 9:49 AM
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The reserves displayed made out of the new fabric packed incredibly small. They had three reserves packed in identical freebags on display. The 143 made out of the new fabric was exactly the same size as the "current" 106. Unbelievable.

They had one Z-braced canopy hung up on display. The bottom line with that canopy was that it is a penta-cell. Five individual chambers per line group. Very thin profile, way less line drag interesting brace design. No, I didn't take a picture of it, but as it was on display at PIA I have to believe that pics will probably be up soon on the PD website.

Chuck


BBKid  (B 104059)

Jan 19, 2005, 11:48 AM
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This is the first I've heard about the new PD reserve material, and I think it's really interesting. I know I'll probably never go lower than a 143 reserve, but it'd be nice to know that I can get a 143 reserve into a container that holds a sub-100 main, if I ever get good enought to jump one.

I know PD design great reserves, but I'll be reading very carefully about the testing and strength of this material before I buy one!!!


skymedic  (C 33561)

Jan 19, 2005, 11:57 AM
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There are containers made today that you can have a large reserve and sub 100 main in them. both wings and racer will make ANY combination you want. also mirage has a 143 or 160 reserve container with main container made for sub 100 mains...


BBKid  (B 104059)

Jan 19, 2005, 12:02 PM
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I realise that, however some people are fiercely brand loyal, or have DZ staff sponsorships etc. For example, if I were in the mirage DZ sponsored program and jumped a velocity79, but wanted a 143 reserve, it wouldn't be going into any of the Mirage container sizes currently available (correct me if I'm wrong).

For what it's worth, my next rig will almost certainly be a Wings!


Spizzzarko

Jan 19, 2005, 12:12 PM
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Now it's going to suck to try to sell a small reserve. If I have a container made for a 113R and I can now pack a 160R into it, why would I still want the 113R. I forsee a flood of small reserves on the market, that will be worth car covers.... It's hard enough to sell small gear as is, much less small gear that no one will want to buy. It's going to be like trying to sell a raven when precision announced their BS service bulletine about the bartacks.


usskydiver  (D 12780)

Jan 19, 2005, 12:37 PM
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In reply to:
Now it's going to suck to try to sell a small reserve. If I have a container made for a 113R and I can now pack a 160R into it, why would I still want the 113R. I forsee a flood of small reserves on the market, that will be worth car covers.... It's hard enough to sell small gear as is, much less small gear that no one will want to buy. It's going to be like trying to sell a raven when precision announced their BS service bulletine about the bartacks.

Grant,
Don't forget the difference between "shown at PIA" and "available to the general public"


isaiah85  (D 26804)

Jan 19, 2005, 1:04 PM
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We also had the RDS


Isaiah


skymedic  (C 33561)

Jan 19, 2005, 2:59 PM
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You would be able to get away with that due to the big pack volume of the velocity. now a katana at that size...I doubt it.


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