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a26908t  (A License)

Aug 18, 2004, 12:44 AM
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Can someone explain to me what a coach does? what kind of students they take care? is confusing , what levels are they soppose to teach? thanks


AggieDave  (D License)

Aug 18, 2004, 5:11 AM
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I'm sure you're going to get a flood of anti-coach-rating people responding. They're the ones that have never seen the USPA's ISP properly implimented nor the level of students that can be produced with the ISP. They're also probably just looking at the minimums for what is required to become a coach. For instance at my DZ the minimums won't get you in the Coach rotation, just about every coach either has gone through Skydive U or has enough jumps and skill that is on the same level of flying and awareness.

Basically they take up the later catagories, generally speaking Cat F and on (some DZs do it differently) and teach basic RW skills. As for what kind of students, if the DZ uses the ISP, then they get student from every training method, since they all converge. If only DZs would actually use the ISP properly...

Its all layed out in the SIM, besure to check out the SIM for the details.


BIGUN  (D 23385)

Aug 18, 2004, 6:24 AM
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A coach can teach the generic portions of the first jump course (most everything except the dive flow), give the oral exams, etc.

They can take students on Categories G & H. The introductions to group freefall - swooping, adjusting freefall rate with the formation, docking, etc. And, train/observe those canopy control and landing objectives as defined on the "A" license proficiency card.

As discussed in a similar thread, the intent of introduction to group freefall is for the Coach to act as the formation allowing the student to have a physical reference to "target." While the "intent" is not clearly defined, they can slowly introduce three and four ways towards the latter part of their 25 dive program. And, while not also clearly defined as to who can be in those three or four ways, we have a rule of thumb that it must be another Coach or someone whose got a couple hundred jumps and done lotsa formation work, not someone with 30 or 40 jumps.

A Coach may take grips to exit, may use the AFF hand signals to assist the student, but may NOT pull for a student at pull time.


(This post was edited by BIGUN on Aug 18, 2004, 6:29 AM)


AggieDave  (D License)

Aug 18, 2004, 10:27 AM
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That's right, Cat G, sorry, I said Cat F in my previous post, my mistake.


skydiveelis  (D 27824)

Aug 19, 2004, 1:37 AM
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thank you so much !!!!!!!!! to both of you guys , great information !!!!!


BIGUN  (D 23385)

Aug 19, 2004, 5:26 AM
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You're welcome... as you know, just reciting what we read in the IRM Wink


larsrulz  (C 34603)

Aug 23, 2004, 11:53 AM
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That's right, Cat G, sorry, I said Cat F in my previous post, my mistake.

Cat F can actually be correct. The SIM does not say when a student can be cleared for self-supervision, but for instance my dropzone does that after the CAT D jump (a S/L DZ and CAT E is done as the last coach dive after F-H), but a coach can jump with a student as soon as an instructor clears them for self-supervision, which I am sure this varies between both method of instruction and dropzone. This implies that a coach could do the CAT F tracking dive (Jay Stokes my coach's course director explicitely said this), but he said (and I agree) that a coach should not be doing a tracking dive, as that requires air skills that are more suited towards an instructor. But in general, the CAT G-H are those that are said aside as "coach jumps."



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