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Defensive Flying Techniques?


ZoneRat  (D 26968)

Jun 25, 2004, 8:37 AM
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Defensive Flying Techniques? Can't Post

Check out this post by JustRelax: Clicky

He mentions a desire to learn what he coined Defensive Flying Techniques:

>> "Since I am new at this sport I figure I am going to learn defensive flying techniques, much like defensive driving. Be aware and predict what people could do around me and be at the ready and skilled to avoid what they could possibly do." <<

Struck me as a pretty sharp idea.

What would be some good "DFT's" to use when jumping with people with whom you're not familiar or confident? on RW Zooloads? FF? Under canopy? Whatever.

(This post was edited by ZoneRat on Jun 25, 2004, 8:41 AM)

freakydiver  (D 26421)

Jun 25, 2004, 9:45 AM
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Re: [ZoneRat] Defensive Flying Techniques? [In reply to] Can't Post

It kind of goes along the lines of keeping your head on a swivel. Always be looking around and try to figure out where the other guy is going. Assume he isn't looking for you CrazyShocked

ZoneRat  (D 26968)

Jun 25, 2004, 10:20 AM
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Re: [freakydiver] Defensive Flying Techniques? [In reply to] Can't Post

ok.. here's a couple I use...Prime the pump a little more.

When I'm jumping with a low time jumper... I know that somewhere between their 50-150th... they often "find their legs". That is, they suddenly really start giving legs out. They can't control it well yet. And they can't stop it. They become topedoes. Seems to last about 3 or so jumps. Often not consecutive.

So. If I'm on a jump with a low jump person, I think about what I'll do if I see one of them coming in way too fast:

1. I present my side. So if there is an impact it's not head-head.
2. If the torpedo is a thin person I'll ball up to sink out of the way. If it's a heavier person I'll pop up.
3. If I have plenty of time to see it coming, a simple side slide is usually enough.

Then I watch for their 2nd and third pass... they're coming.

If I'm near them under canopy, I try to stay behind, high and right. Works well with a left hand pattern.

What are some others? What if your doing a campfire dive with someone learning to sit? Do you choose a heading so that when they backslide they backslide perpendicular to line of flight?

Stuff like that.

WrongWay  (D 27371)

Jun 25, 2004, 11:25 AM
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Re: [ZoneRat] Defensive Flying Techniques? [In reply to] Can't Post

This might be kind of "assholish", but hey, if we're talking about looking out for our own asses....Wink

Any time there's someone who is a newbie in freefly or is learning a new orientation (or thinks they know what they're doing and tracks all over the sky, most common situation Wink), I always do everything I can to exit after that person so they won't come flying into my airspace.

Other than that, just keep your eyes everywhere and make sure you're ready to get out of the way (in freefall or under canopy) at all times.

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