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Trent

Apr 8, 2004, 12:48 PM
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So some of the threads here got me thinking... what if you were to make a video using a "big name" song and wanted to sell it. Would it be legal for you to go to iTunes and download 1 copy of that song for each dvd you sell? Unless services like iTunes prohibit that specifically, then it seems fair. But would it work?


motherhucker  (D 19)

Apr 8, 2004, 1:06 PM
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So some of the threads here got me thinking... what if you were to make a video using a "big name" song and wanted to sell it. Would it be legal for you to go to iTunes and download 1 copy of that song for each dvd you sell? Unless services like iTunes prohibit that specifically, then it seems fair. But would it work?

No. Read the Itunes terms of use. The song is still copyrighted and if you don't own it, you're out of luck.


Trent

Apr 8, 2004, 7:15 PM
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So even if I pay for every song I put in a video, that's not okay. I make 100 videos and I buy 100 songs. So it's not like buying a software license? I'm not buying the right to have 1 copy of that song when I pay for music? I'll have to read more... but it seems like it would be fair....Unimpressed


AggieDave  (D License)

Apr 8, 2004, 7:32 PM
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You're buying the right to have the song for your personal enjoyment, you're not paying for rights to profit from the music being used.

Sure, you're not "making" money, but you're selling a "product" which is the same legally.


jdhill  (D License)

Apr 8, 2004, 8:10 PM
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but it seems like it would be fair

Fair, maybe... legal mabe not... it may get you out of damages, because of good faith... but they will still make you stop distribution.

J


ltdiver  (D 20506)

Apr 8, 2004, 8:53 PM
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It's like you bought a DVD...say of "Star Wars". You own a -copy- of the DVD but it doesn't give you the right to copy it and sell it.

ltdiver


AndyMan  (D 25698)

Apr 9, 2004, 9:42 AM
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No. Whenever you buy a song, book, or movie, you're not actually buying the CONTENT. You're buying two things:

1) a transport mechanism.
2) certain rights to use what is physically stored on the transport mechanism.

So, when you buy a music CD, you're buying a hunk of plastic, with some metal layred thinly inside. You're also buying the rights to personally listen to that music yourself.

The fact that you now own the transport mechanism (CD), does not mean you own the content. The copyright holder still owns the content. You just own the right to listen to the content.

You do NOT own the right to reproduce the content. (exceptions apply).

You do NOT own the right to redistribute the content, which is what you're talking about.

What most people don't know, is that you don't even have the right to resell (say, at a used CD store), or even lend it to a friend. Granted that this part is rarely enforced, and is legally debatable.

Buying more copies of the transport mechanism does not give you any more rights then just buying one copy.

_Am


efs4ever  (D 7014)

Apr 10, 2004, 4:26 PM
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No. Whenever you buy a song, book, or movie, you're not actually buying the CONTENT. You're buying two things:

1) a transport mechanism.
2) certain rights to use what is physically stored on the transport mechanism.

So, when you buy a music CD, you're buying a hunk of plastic, with some metal layred thinly inside. You're also buying the rights to personally listen to that music yourself.

The fact that you now own the transport mechanism (CD), does not mean you own the content. The copyright holder still owns the content. You just own the right to listen to the content.

You do NOT own the right to reproduce the content. (exceptions apply).

You do NOT own the right to redistribute the content, which is what you're talking about.

What most people don't know, is that you don't even have the right to resell (say, at a used CD store), or even lend it to a friend. Granted that this part is rarely enforced, and is legally debatable.

Buying more copies of the transport mechanism does not give you any more rights then just buying one copy.

_Am

I've said this before in reply to posts like this:

Intellectual property right owners ARE going after little guys.

You can buy, at a reasonable price, music to use in syncronization with your videos that you SELL and distribute to others.

I use Sounddogs, and the music is not that bad.


motherhucker  (D 19)

Apr 10, 2004, 5:12 PM
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and the music is not that bad.

you mean, as opposed to "good?"
mh


efs4ever  (D 7014)

Apr 10, 2004, 6:29 PM
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and the music is not that bad.

you mean, as opposed to "good?"
mh

Not as good as Aerosmith or Eminem, but very fine for syncronization with skydiving video.

Unimpressed


flyingarab  (D 27303)

Apr 11, 2004, 9:35 AM
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If you are looking for bad ass music, such as techno or fast shit for the jump, go get sonic foundry acid and make it yourself. It is an easy program and you can add beats to match the jumps.


Daisey_12

Apr 11, 2004, 7:45 PM
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Try using Gene Michael Productions at gmpmusic.com. You can custom make a royalty-free cd with the music that you want. I would recommend calling and speaking with a rep., 800.955.0619. This company has relieved my search for decent-music headache.



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