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WMO  (D 4812)

Oct 5, 2015, 7:16 AM
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Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?


mereanarchy  (A License)

Oct 5, 2015, 7:27 AM
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any specific location?

Blue Ridge Skydive Adventures does IAD training, its beautiful there this time of year!


skytribe  (D 9403)

Oct 6, 2015, 7:44 AM
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Skydive Snohomish is just winding down its static line program but is/was a great program.


Rstanley0312  (D 31900)

Oct 6, 2015, 9:37 AM
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WMO wrote:
Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?

Does local matter?


TFFTM  (D 29333)

Oct 12, 2015, 12:49 PM
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We are currently doing IAD training at Skydive The South.


colossus

Oct 12, 2015, 7:26 PM
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Skydive South Sask conducts almost all of their student jumps via IAD, and we have been doing it for 20+ years. http://www.skydivesouthsask.ca


justme12001  (D 29862)

Oct 13, 2015, 4:53 PM
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Skydive Walterboro, in SC. They have been in business for at least 35 years, and it's were I learned.


DJL  (D License)

Oct 19, 2015, 1:11 PM
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WMO wrote:
Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.

To answer, another is Virginina Skydiving Center.


Rstanley0312  (D 31900)

Oct 20, 2015, 11:55 AM
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DJL wrote:
WMO wrote:
Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.

To answer, another is Virginina Skydiving Center.

What's wrong with static line?


gowlerk  (C 3196)

Oct 20, 2015, 12:00 PM
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Rstanley0312 wrote:
DJL wrote:
WMO wrote:
Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.

To answer, another is Virginina Skydiving Center.

What's wrong with static line?

It makes less use of the aircraft and generates less revenue for the dz and staff.


ufk22  (D 16168)

Oct 23, 2015, 11:02 AM
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gowlerk wrote:
Rstanley0312 wrote:
DJL wrote:
WMO wrote:
Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.

To answer, another is Virginina Skydiving Center.

What's wrong with static line?

It makes less use of the aircraft and generates less revenue for the dz and staff.
Having both S/L and AFF ratings, my take on the difference is economics rather than quality of training. By 100 jumps, I doubt if there is any noticeable difference in a jumpers abilities other than the S/L trained will be comfortable with low exits.
By economics, I mean aircraft utilization. It makes no sense to have a turbine orbit at 3500' for multiple S/L exits.
It also makes more sense to put 3 or 4 students out of a Cessna on successive passes rather than tie up the aircraft with 3 people to full altitude for one AFF.
One instructor can easily train and put out 12 S/L students in a day, actually making S/L much more profitable for a Cessna DZ.
The suggestion that "S/L is only a great way to to get tunnel instructors a license" shows a level of either arrogance or stupidity beyond my ability to comment further.


gowlerk  (C 3196)

Oct 23, 2015, 11:58 AM
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ufk22 wrote:
gowlerk wrote:
Rstanley0312 wrote:
DJL wrote:
WMO wrote:
Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.

To answer, another is Virginina Skydiving Center.

What's wrong with static line?

It makes less use of the aircraft and generates less revenue for the dz and staff.
Having both S/L and AFF ratings, my take on the difference is economics rather than quality of training. By 100 jumps, I doubt if there is any noticeable difference in a jumpers abilities other than the S/L trained will be comfortable with low exits.
By economics, I mean aircraft utilization. It makes no sense to have a turbine orbit at 3500' for multiple S/L exits.
It also makes more sense to put 3 or 4 students out of a Cessna on successive passes rather than tie up the aircraft with 3 people to full altitude for one AFF.
One instructor can easily train and put out 12 S/L students in a day, actually making S/L much more profitable for a Cessna DZ.
The suggestion that "S/L is only a great way to to get tunnel instructors a license" shows a level of either arrogance or stupidity beyond my ability to comment further.



I absolutely agree with all of what you say. In a world where pretty much every DZ will tell you that whatever method they use is "the best". The truth is that whatever makes the best use of the aircraft and staff resources available is what they use. And therefore is the best.


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Oct 24, 2015, 10:09 AM
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Gowlerk spoke "god's own truth."


Trafficdiver  (D 33728)

Oct 24, 2015, 11:01 AM
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Z Hills or Vermont Skydiving Adventures.

I don't know if either is great as I did AFF but they both have the program.


hillson  (D 33134)

Oct 26, 2015, 5:41 AM
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Trafficdiver wrote:
Z Hills or Vermont Skydiving Adventures.

I don't know if either is great as I did AFF but they both have the program.

ZHills doesn't offer S/L as a commercial program. You could pick up a S/L rating via Skydive Ratings (Bram Clement), however. Frankly, it has been a rare S/L course that I've seen go through. IAD on the other hand...I see pretty frequently.


DJL  (D License)

Oct 26, 2015, 11:51 AM
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The suggestion that "S/L is only a great way to to get tunnel instructors a license" shows a level of either arrogance or stupidity beyond my ability to comment further.

Seriously?


JohnMitchell  (D 6462)

Oct 29, 2015, 8:29 AM
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DJL wrote:

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.
S/L is a valid method of learning to skydive. Many of the "great" skydivers we have today started that way. But I still prefer AFF for most.

BTW, I've trained several tunnel instructors via AFF. Always a pleasure to jump with a student that makes my job that easy. Wink


Rstanley0312  (D 31900)

Nov 11, 2015, 7:57 AM
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gowlerk wrote:
Rstanley0312 wrote:
DJL wrote:
WMO wrote:
Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.

To answer, another is Virginina Skydiving Center.

What's wrong with static line?

It makes less use of the aircraft and generates less revenue for the dz and staff.

SL may make less money for staff but the margins on SL are better and the ability to crank more out are also better.


Dr.SkyFall  (Student)

Nov 15, 2015, 12:56 PM
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DJL wrote:

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.

As an IAD student can I ask what it is about the training I am getting is subpar? What skills will I be lacking in once licensed that I will need extra training to make up for? I want to be proficient and safe skydiver so your advice is appreciated!


dpreguy  (D 835)

Nov 15, 2015, 8:13 PM
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Lincoln Sport Parachute Club, Weeping Water, Nebraska has static line.


DJL  (D License)

Nov 17, 2015, 11:30 AM
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Dr.SkyFall wrote:
DJL wrote:

Not to deter from your question but I've never seen the phrase "great" paired with "S/L or IAD..." The only great application is getting an A-License for tunnel instructors. I do realize it's none of my business.

As an IAD student can I ask what it is about the training I am getting is subpar? What skills will I be lacking in once licensed that I will need extra training to make up for? I want to be proficient and safe skydiver so your advice is appreciated!

Talk to your instructors, not some dude on the internet. What you're getting is what you're getting, they'll fill in the blanks and let you know the differences from start to finish. As several have said, you won't see any difference between the two for seasoned skydivers, just in how you scrambled the eggs.


drdiesel  (D 33315)

Apr 26, 2016, 10:56 AM
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DZone Boise in Idaho and DZone Bozeman in Montana, both offer IAD instruction.


fencebuster  (D 29918)

Apr 27, 2016, 6:55 PM
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We do IAD at Blue Ridge Skydiving Adventures in New Market VA. We also do AFF. Either way, we are more than willing to train new skydivers!


Para_Frog  (D 29814)

Aug 15, 2016, 10:26 PM
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drdiesel wrote:
DZone Boise in Idaho and DZone Bozeman in Montana, both offer IAD instruction.

And they have real high FJC retention. Rad crew. But I'm biased.


grue  (D License)

Aug 31, 2016, 8:28 PM
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WMO wrote:
Anybody know of a DZ with a Great S/L or IAD Program?

Skydive Adventures, in Luverne, MN. Great group of people, can't recommend them enough.


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