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I'm finally in the Metal-in-your-leg club!

 


jf951  (D License)

Oct 14, 2013, 12:49 PM
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so i've finally been initiated into the hardware-in-my-leg club and i figure theres no one else better to ask for advice about it than you guys so for all you experienced hardware toting veterans, have you ever had an issue with security anywhere? is it just a quick wave with the little wand after you set the main metal detector off and you cruise on through or have any of you ever had any serious issues getting though?


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Oct 14, 2013, 1:05 PM
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No.
I have a large bolt in my pelvis, a large plate in my pelvis, a 'ladder' in my back, screws in my collarbones, ankle, wrist, and elbow (from a variety of injuries not entirely related to skydiving).
I do have a Stryker card listing all my parts, but the TSA doesn't recognize the card as anything valid.

That said, never have I been stopped for the metal in my body, nor does it set off the detector. The parts can be seen on the scanner, but the scanners apparently, are programmed to ignore it. Scars are another story.


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Anachronist

Oct 14, 2013, 1:57 PM
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Welcome to the club :)

I've got a plate and 8 screws on my right fibula that is maybe 2 or 3 mm under the skin. I've never set off a metal detector and the body scanners don't even penetrate that deep.

It is pretty much a non issue. If it is ever picked up they'll just wand and pat down then send you on your way. TSA folks are usually pretty silly but even they can figure out when someone has an implant.


monkycndo  (D License)

Oct 14, 2013, 5:30 PM
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My plate and six screws have never elicited a question. But the scar/depression in my GF's thigh always shows up and gets "Ma'am, what's in your pants pocket?"Crazy

Fucking Transportation Safety Theatre!!

Get this. Want to bring water through "security". Freeze it. It is no longer a gel or liquid. Angelic


grue  (D License)

Oct 14, 2013, 6:23 PM
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monkycndo wrote:
Get this. Want to bring water through "security". Freeze it. It is no longer a gel or liquid. Angelic

Shocked

Brilliant!


ChuckMartin  (D License)

Oct 14, 2013, 6:29 PM
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Have a good amount of metal in my leg (IED's hurt, btw) and it has never been a problem. The brace I use sometimes slows things down with TSA.


promise5

Oct 14, 2013, 8:10 PM
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Crud there's a club for metal in your legs ??
I get to join!!! I've got staples,pins or whatever you want to call them from my break earlier this year.

Wait a minute. Does it matter HOW you ended up getting them? Because it's still under review on wether it was a jump or just a fall. Tongue

Seriously though when I traveled they didn't set anything off so does it matter they size or amount if metal you have?


(This post was edited by promise5 on Oct 14, 2013, 8:11 PM)


monkycndo  (D License)

Oct 14, 2013, 8:24 PM
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promise5 wrote:
Crud there's a club for metal in your legs ??
I get to join!!! I've got staples,pins or whatever you want to call them from my break earlier this year.

Go to the Lost Prairie boogie. Each year there is the Heavy Metal jump. Yup, only way to get on the load is to be the "proud" owner of some internal metal. Method of earning it does not matter.


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Oct 14, 2013, 8:53 PM
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monkycndo wrote:
promise5 wrote:
Crud there's a club for metal in your legs ??
I get to join!!! I've got staples,pins or whatever you want to call them from my break earlier this year.

Go to the Lost Prairie boogie. Each year there is the Heavy Metal jump. Yup, only way to get on the load is to be the "proud" owner of some internal metal. Method of earning it does not matter.

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When "Pieces of Eight" (Captain Hook, Larry Yonn, etc.) used to train (Perris Valley, California), air traffic controllers (at nearby March Air Force Base) used to track them on radar.


pashakiev  (A License)

Oct 15, 2013, 5:16 AM
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Laugh "Finally in the metal club" :) Sounds like an achievement you have been waiting for :).

Did a bunch of travel recently, no issue anywhere. (2 rods, 13 screws 1 plate / tib/fib) Stupid hurts. Joining the club fkin hurts too :) When you back in the air? :)

cheers, PV


JohnMitchell  (D 6462)

Oct 15, 2013, 5:44 AM
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You know you're a skydiver when . . .

you have a very good layman's knowledge of orthopedic surgery.Unsure


DrDom  (Student)

Oct 15, 2013, 7:28 AM
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Most metal used in implants are non-ferrous and do not show up on metal detector. Mostly Titanium now (stuff is stronger than the bone, its elegant stuff). The major reason for the shift is that it also will not interfere as much with MRI (which uses big magnets to generate an image).

I've heard stories of old metal skull implants causing problems but I dont know how much of that is urban legend.

Can I join the club if I have sternal wires from heart surgery???


jumpwally  (D License)

Oct 17, 2013, 8:55 AM
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I don't see why not,,it's internal metal....Cool


DrDom  (Student)

Oct 17, 2013, 10:40 AM
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jumpwally wrote:
I don't see why not,,it's internal metal....Cool
have to get up there and jump with those guys sometime then. Probably others out there with valve replacements and/or bypass that have some wires!
Guess my friend with a pacer/defib would also qualify!


FastRon

Oct 17, 2013, 11:29 AM
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Ah 'welcome' to the 'club'... I have learned to hate flying commercial- particularly before (some of) the security checkpoints began using the mm. radar instead of the metal detector. I can wear spandex, tell them about my bionic knee and point to the obvious scar(s). No matter, I get the full treatment frisk. In some countries I'd probably have to declare domestic partnership with security screeners conducting 'frisks'. The radar is way better- I take off my shoes, and hat, empty pockets and pretty much breeze through.


DrDom  (Student)

Oct 17, 2013, 12:04 PM
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FastRon wrote:
Ah 'welcome' to the 'club'... I have learned to hate flying commercial- particularly before (some of) the security checkpoints began using the mm. radar instead of the metal detector. I can wear spandex, tell them about my bionic knee and point to the obvious scar(s). No matter, I get the full treatment frisk. In some countries I'd probably have to declare domestic partnership with security screeners conducting 'frisks'. The radar is way better- I take off my shoes, and hat, empty pockets and pretty much breeze through.

Whenever I need to go through I tell them I WANT the patdown. I tell them make sure they are thorough. I like seeing them uncomfortable instead of the other way around.


danornan  (D 11308)

Oct 17, 2013, 12:29 PM
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I was handed a yellow card while in the line at TSA and it was like a "Get Out of Jail Card" last weekend. I did not have to takes any thing off or remove shoes, placed my back pack in a tray (unopened with a lap top and cell phone inside) and walked through without a scan!

Must be a new get friendly policy.. Very nice.


DrewEckhardt  (D 28461)

Oct 17, 2013, 5:05 PM
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jf951 wrote:
so i've finally been initiated into the hardware-in-my-leg club and i figure theres no one else better to ask for advice about it than you guys so for all you experienced hardware toting veterans, have you ever had an issue with security anywhere?

No, and I found it a bit disturbing that a 1/2" thick foot long chunk of metal in my leg did not bother airport security the same way my car keys or pocket change would.

OTOH, that was before the naked making machines that'll spot a plastic comb. I had the hole in my tibia closed with a bone graft and the rod removed so I don't know how that would show up with the current airport setup.


(This post was edited by DrewEckhardt on Oct 17, 2013, 5:08 PM)


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Oct 20, 2013, 9:00 PM
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Hee!
Hee!
I was discussing this with a co-worker last week, He burnt out as a security screener at the airport ... then got a metal knee a few years later.
The last time he flew across the border, he told a screener that he had a metal knee. The screener merely waved a wand past his knee.
So my buddy called the senior screener over and told him that maybe - just maybe - a "pat-down" might be the correct procedure.
Clueless stare!
And people wonder why airport security screeners get no respect??????


jdobleman  (D 7790)

Oct 21, 2013, 2:11 AM
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Caveat: fillings, piercings do not count, bullets and shrapnel do. The Heavy Metal load is always on the Thursday of the boogie.

madjohn


Tink1717  (D 12524)

Oct 27, 2013, 1:28 PM
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Can I join? I've got a pin in my thumb from wet grass at Eloy. Crazy


DrDom  (Student)

Oct 27, 2013, 6:17 PM
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Tink1717 wrote:
Can I join? I've got a pin in my thumb from wet grass at Eloy. Crazy

metal
skydive related
sounds legit to me :)



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