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190 main/reserve in H/C sized for 220/220?

 


rifleman  (Student)

Jan 11, 2013, 8:24 AM
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I recently purchased an older rig that's the right size for me. It's sized for a 220 main and reserve but trying to find a used 220ish canopy that's not too old is like trying to find rocking horse manure. My CCI reckons I should be OK on a 190 and my rigger reckons the H/C probably has less than 400 jumps on it and is a bargain despite being 20+ years old (cost me 200)

My question is this - would I be able to fit 190 canopies in this without any problems or should I be looking for a smaller rig?


GLIDEANGLE  (D 30292)

Jan 11, 2013, 8:50 AM
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Re: [rifleman] 190 main/reserve in H/C sized for 220/220? [In reply to] Can't Post

Bear in mind that not all 190 sq foot canopies will be the same size.

Factors which can make similar size cannopies have different volumes:

Fabric
___PD Optimum fabric vs regular 0-3cfm reserve fabric
___ZPX vs ZP

Design
___7 cell vs 9 cell


rifleman  (Student)

Jan 11, 2013, 8:57 AM
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Re: [GLIDEANGLE] 190 main/reserve in H/C sized for 220/220? [In reply to] Can't Post

As I'm buying used it will probably be standard reserve fabric and a 9 cell main but probably ZP rather than ZPX.

ETA:

In general, would a 190 be too loose in this rig and cause problems or would it be OK?


(This post was edited by rifleman on Jan 11, 2013, 9:02 AM)


Quagmirian  (A 110392)

Jan 11, 2013, 10:00 AM
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Re: [rifleman] 190 main/reserve in H/C sized for 220/220? [In reply to] Can't Post

Contact the rig manufacturer and they'll tell you what canopies are good. Unfortunately, not all canopies of the same type pack the same size; the more knowledgeable people in here will elaborate on this.


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Jan 11, 2013, 10:15 AM
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Re: [GLIDEANGLE] 190 main/reserve in H/C sized for 220/220? [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
Bear in mind that not all 190 sq foot canopies will be the same size.

Factors which can make similar size cannopies have different volumes:

Fabric
___PD Optimum fabric vs regular 0-3cfm reserve fabric
___ZPX vs ZP

Design
___7 cell vs 9 cell


Lines
___Spectra
___Dacron


wolfriverjoe  (A 50013)

Jan 11, 2013, 2:43 PM
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Re: [rifleman] 190 main/reserve in H/C sized for 220/220? [In reply to] Can't Post

What kind of H/C? Some brands are better at taking a size down than others.
For the most part, you can go a size down and be ok.


rifleman  (Student)

Jan 11, 2013, 2:51 PM
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TSE Teardrop Classic


NeonLights  (D License)

Jan 11, 2013, 3:47 PM
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Re: [rifleman] 190 main/reserve in H/C sized for 220/220? [In reply to] Can't Post

I use a canopy that is too small for ny container, and i just stuff toilet paper around my dbag when i pack to fill empty space. About a roll a packjob should do the trick


airtwardo  (D License)

Jan 11, 2013, 3:51 PM
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Re: [rifleman] 190 main/reserve in H/C sized for 220/220? [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
As I'm buying used it will probably be standard reserve fabric and a 9 cell main but probably ZP rather than ZPX.

ETA:

In general, would a 190 be too loose in this rig and cause problems or would it be OK?

I have 2 identical containers, one has a 220 reserve and a 210 main...the other has 190's top & bottom.

In my case the only discernible difference is weight and ease of packing the 190.


I also have a 170 I put in there, I just shorten the loop and pack it loosely in the bag.


ChrisD  (No License)

Jan 13, 2013, 2:48 PM
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I recently purchased an older rig that's the right size for me. It's sized for a 220 main and reserve but trying to find a used 220ish canopy that's not too old is like trying to find rocking horse manure. My CCI reckons I should be OK on a 190 and my rigger reckons the H/C probably has less than 400 jumps on it and is a bargain despite being 20+ years old (cost me 200)

My question is this - would I be able to fit 190 canopies in this without any problems or should I be looking for a smaller rig?

What a switch, generally this subject is how to stuff a too large canopy in a too small container and still answer the question: Will it open?

My 2 cents is to make sure that your able to adjust the main closing loop so that you have 8 or whatever lbs., opening force, that's USA pounds, I don't know what this is in KG, but I think you get the point! Find a rigger that can teach you this, so you can comfortably do this on your own.

Good luck and have fun!
C

Crazy What do you mean by "older."


(This post was edited by ChrisD on Jan 13, 2013, 2:50 PM)



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