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skysurfcam  (F 446)

Jan 1, 2006, 7:00 PM
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http://www.news.com.au/...711886-26619,00.html
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A SINGLE-engine plane carrying a group of parachutists has crashed west of Ipswich in Queensland.

Australian Transport Safety Bureau spokesman Alan Stray said up to six people may have died after the plane hit a Willowbank dam soon after take-off at about 11.30am (AEDT) today.
It is believed a person has been airlifted to Ipswich hospital.

Emergency crews are at the scene.

"A Cessna 206 conducting parachuting operations crashed shortly after take-off and it is understood to have crashed into a dam," Mr Stray said.

"The sketchy information we have at this stage indicates one person may have survived, but there could be up to six people fatally injured.

"At this stage we are trying to get a team together to reach the site."

C.


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btucker  (E 1974)

Jan 1, 2006, 7:24 PM
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* This is not the same dropzone as where nationals are being held *

My deepest condolences and we hope & pray for those hurt.

Ben


edit: Nationals currently are being held at another dropzone in Queensland. On TV news, male survivor was shown being worked on by the ambos {medics}. He was conscious and sucking on the whistle pain medication. Fingers crossed!


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Kaz  (A 8582)

Jan 1, 2006, 8:26 PM
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17711886-26619,00.html (Sorry, don't know how to make this clickable....)

5 feared dead in plane crash
From: AAP
January 02, 2006

ONE person is dead and four others are missing after a plane carrying a group of parachutists plunged into a dam near Ipswich, west of Brisbane.

Two other people aboard the plane survived and have been taken to hospital.
The single-engine Cessna 206, operated by the Brisbane Skydiving Centre, crashed shortly after it took off from Willowbank about 11am (AEDT) today.

"A plane has gone down with seven people on board," skydiving centre spokeswoman Angela Garvey said.

"There's two survivors so far," she said, adding the wreckage was submerged in the dam.

A Queensland police spokeswoman said one body had been found.

"One body has been found, one person has been airlifted to Princess Alexandra Hospital and another to Ipswich Hospital," she said.

"Four people are still missing. Police are currently conducting a ground search around the dam."

A Civil Aviation Safety Authority spokesman said the aircraft was carrying six parachutists and a pilot when it crashed into a dam near Ipswich, about 70km east of Brisbane.

Queensland Fire and Rescue Service crews are at the scene.

"We apparently had a seven-seater skydiving aircraft that took off for a parachute jump," service spokesman Peter Theodore told the ABC.

"It didn't gain a lot of altitude on our understanding and crashed into a dam.

"We have QAS (Queensland Ambulance Service) units on site. We have fire service vehicles on scene, plus our technical rescue vehicles from Brisbane are responding."

Australian Transport Safety Bureau spokesman Alan Stray said few details about the crash were known at this stage.

Investigators had been called in, he said.



I have friends up there who are not answering their phones...if anyone has any info as to who was on the load I sure would appreciate a PM.


LukeOliver  (F 600)

Jan 1, 2006, 8:38 PM
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Five confirmed dead - Tandem master and student, two licensed parachutists and pilot. Another TM and TS damaged and in hospital.

Aircraft is believed to be a Cessna 206 modified with 350HP Turbo Lycoming.

If you are missing a TM from South Queensland, PM me for a name.

L.


amishdan  (C License)

Jan 1, 2006, 11:43 PM
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The dropzone is right next to my dropzone. When it happened the description sounded like mine, ive never felt so sick.

There is a lot of hearsay at the moment, some people have said the plane may have been overloaded with 7 people on board.

Ive also heard it was 3 tandem masters and students on board... information is unreliable at this stage.

My condolences to all the families of everyone involved.


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ltdiver  (D 20506)

Jan 1, 2006, 11:50 PM
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Man, I wish the newswire would report the correct information. Thanks, Luke for posting.

http://www.int.iol.co.za/...=qw1136185202782R131

Five skydivers killed in plane crash

Ipswich, Australia - Five people were killed when a plane carrying a group of skydivers plunged into a dam near Brisbane in eastern Australia Monday, officials said.

Two people survived the crash of the single-engine Cessna 206. A police spokesperson said one body had been retrieved and an AFP photographer at the scene said divers were recovering four others from the wreckage.

"Our investigator on-site has confirmed there are five dead but four are still in the plane, which is submerged upside down," a police officer said.

The pilot is recovering in hospital, according to national radio, while a 27-year-old woman reportedly suffered internal injuries.

A local resident who was among the first on the scene said he came across the woman walking away from the crash with blood running from her head.

"As I was driving down there was a lady walking across the paddock," he told Australia's ABC radio. "She said that she'd come out of the plane."

The aircraft crashed into the dam shortly after take-off near Ipswich, about 70km east of Brisbane.

"The aircraft seemed to develop trouble trying to gain some height," said police spokesman Noel Powers.

"It clipped a tree and then unfortunately went into the dam," about two kilometres from the runway, he said.

Civil Aviation Safety Authority spokesperson Peter Gibson said it could take weeks to determine the cause of the crash. "We have no idea of what it might have been at this early stage," he said.

The plane was operated by the Brisbane Skydiving Centre, one of the area's longest-running parachuting operations.


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amishdan  (C License)

Jan 2, 2006, 12:14 AM
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Its been confirmed that 3 tandem masters and 3 students were on board.

The plane had major trouble getting height before clipping a gum tree and crashing into a dam.

A tandem master survived and dragged a student out, but unfortunately the student was already dead. Another student was found by a local resident walking around dazed and bleeding.

The rest have just recently been recovered by police divers.

My thoughts and prayers to all involved and their families. May they rest in peace.


Trae  (Student)

Jan 2, 2006, 1:14 AM
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Unimpressed
Australia is experiencing one of its hottest summers on record. Bubbly , blowy and blustery.

Please you Aussies take it easy out there.

....


Angelic


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DanglesOZQld  (F 623)

Jan 2, 2006, 2:04 AM
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I started my skydiving career with Scof and all the beautiful people out there.......can't even describe the feeling now....to the jumpers out there - there are a lot of people you don't even know sending you good vibes at this time.......

So so sorry this tragedy happened.

-Dangles.
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grace05

Jan 2, 2006, 3:02 AM
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Have they said who they were yet? I'm freaking out cause I know people in that club.
Unsure


Brodes

Jan 2, 2006, 3:36 AM
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Have they said who they were yet? I'm freaking out cause I know people in that club.
Unsure

Family and friends wanting information about victims of the plane crash can call 1800 100 188.


grace05

Jan 2, 2006, 3:40 AM
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thanks :)


GravityGirl  (D 18897)

Jan 2, 2006, 9:43 AM
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There is a lot of hearsay at the moment, some people have said the plane may have been overloaded with 7 people on board.

We fly a 206 at Byron, and we can take up to 6 jumpers. So that's 7 people including the pilot.


packerboy  (C 34282)

Jan 2, 2006, 10:56 AM
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I'd personally like to know:

Was the plane full of fuel?

Is there enough seatbelts for 6 jumpers in this 206?

Is it routine for most DZ's to do 3 tandems from a 206?

Do the tandem students wear seatbelts, or just take off attached to the TM's?

Where were the survivors seated?

Pilot and TM survive? or TM and student? There are conflicting posts. I know that not all of this information may be out, just curious about it when it does come out.

Our 206 usually only takes 6 jumpers if:

Last load on fuel.
Lightish jumpers.
Wind conditions good for take off.

6th person usually faces forward and leans forward to bring more weight to centre of plane.


Genie  (C 461)

Jan 2, 2006, 10:57 AM
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Hey there

rumour suggests there was an irish guy on the plane. I doubt somehow if the number shown works from Ireland so I woudl be very grateful if we can find out if the irish guy was an upjumper or one of the students, and if an upjumper, id appreciate a pm of the name.

Thanks in advance for your help and condolences to alll those who lost friends or family

Genie


ltdiver  (D 20506)

Jan 2, 2006, 11:11 AM
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Another news angle.

http://www.news.com.au/...7,17716073-2,00.html

Modified plane engine investigated

By Sean Parnell and Steve Creedy
03-01-2006
From: The Australian

A PLANE that crashed shortly after take-off yesterday - killing three foreign tourists learning to skydive, an instructor and their pilot - had been modified to use an engine similar to the one that failed in the Whyalla crash that claimed eight lives in 2000.

The performance of the engine on the Cessna 206 will form part of the investigation into the crash, which occurred just before 11am (AEST) at Ebenezer, west of Brisbane.

Witnesses reported the plane, taking the students and their three instructors for a tandem jump, having engine trouble and blowing black smoke on take-off as pilot Anthony Winter struggled to gain altitude in steamy conditions at the Willowbank drop zone.

But Mr Winter probably saved the lives of two of his passengers - Brisbane Skydiving Centre co-owner Brian Scoffell and a 27-year-old woman - after taking his stricken aircraft into a dam when it clipped trees 500m from the runway.

Rescuers dived into the small dam but initially had trouble finding the plane as it lay submerged and barely visible in the muddy water.

Mr Scoffell, who dragged one of the victims free, was on top of the plane he owned, while the bloodied and dazed woman was wandering in the paddock when found. Both were in a stable condition in Brisbane's Princess Alexandra Hospital last night.

The woman, who has not been identified, had spinal injuries while Mr Scoffell, 57, had burns and a broken elbow.

Australian Transport Safety Bureau investigators scoured the scene as the bodies of the victims, three men aged 22, 34 and 31, and two women aged 49 and 39, were taken away for formal identification. The deaths took to 22 the number of people to perish in aircraft accidents in the past year.

Mr Scoffell and his fellow instructors had planned to take their students - two from Britain and one from Ireland - on a routine tandem jump at the popular drop zone, not far from Amberley Air Force Base.

In March 2004, British tourist Clare Barnes, the daughter of a British Government minister and a prominent newsreader, was killed in a skydiving accident near Geelong.

Police Senior Sergeant Robbie Goodger said parts of the Cessna 206 were found in the paddock, particularly near the gum tree, but there was no evidence the plane had hit the ground before crashing into the dam. The Brisbane Skydiving Centre's website shows the 40-year old-plane - added to the Australian registry in June, 2002 - used a conversion kit that replaced its original motor with a Lycoming 350 horsepower TIO-540 turbocharged engine.

The Whyalla crash, which killed eight people, highlighted manufacturing problems with the crankshafts in some Lycoming engines over 300 horsepower and prompted a global recall of the components.

Engine failure, and the 32C temperature and 46 per cent humidity in the area at the time, are among a range of issues likely to be studied by investigators.

Mr Scoffell, a qualified pilot and a former builder, founded the Brisbane Skydiving Centre in 1982. He was said to be "fastidious" in maintaining his aircraft.

Brisbane Skydiving Centre instructor Gary McMahon said the other aircraft operated by the centre, a Cessna 182, would be grounded as a mark of respect but it was unclear what had caused the crash.

Mr Scoffell and his business partner, Angela Garvey, were devastated in 2000 when Bryan Roberts, 18, died when his parachute failed to open after jumping from one of their planes.

Australian Parachute Federation chief executive Graeme Windsor said APF safety officers were examining the crash.

Civil Aviation Safety Authority spokesman Peter Gibson said the aircraft did not need an air operator's certificate and was not subject to operational audits by the authority because it was used solely for skydiving.

He said the operational aspects of skydiving aircraft were the responsibility of the APF.

But CASA would become involved if the Australian Transport Safety Bureau were to find a problem with the way the aircraft was maintained or if it uncovered a defect.


mccurley  (E 663)

Jan 2, 2006, 5:08 PM
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Just heard on the radio here in NZ it was a TS from Ireland and not an experianced jumper.
Brian (the owner of the DZ) and one other are in Hospital. He has burns and a broken elbow. At least thats the latest on the radio.


flyhi  (D License)

Jan 2, 2006, 8:49 PM
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Mr Scoffell, a qualified pilot and a former builder, founded the Brisbane Skydiving Centre in 1982. He was said to be "fastidious" in maintaining his aircraft.

What does this mean? Was he a mechanic or did he assemble engines or is "builder" in this context not related to aviation?


LukeOliver  (F 600)

Jan 2, 2006, 8:53 PM
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Mr Scoffell, a qualified pilot and a former builder, founded the Brisbane Skydiving Centre in 1982. He was said to be "fastidious" in maintaining his aircraft.

What does this mean? Was he a mechanic or did he assemble engines or is "builder" in this context not related to aviation?

Mr Scoffell, a qualified pilot and a former builder [of things of stone and wood], founded the Brisbane Skydiving Centre in 1982.


Jasmin  (D License)

Jan 2, 2006, 9:45 PM
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Just heard on the radio here in NZ it was a TS from Ireland.

Both the Australian and SMH newspapers are carrying this:
Police confirmed...a 34-year-old Irishman, parachuting instructor..also died in the crash.


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ltdiver  (D 20506)

Jan 2, 2006, 9:55 PM
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http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/...370%255E1702,00.html

"...Police confirmed a 49-year-old woman from England and a 34-year-old Irishman, parachuting instructor Nigel O'Gorman originally from County Kildare, also died in the crash..."

Condolences to all who knew him. :^(

ltdiver


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LukeOliver  (F 600)

Jan 2, 2006, 9:57 PM
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Definitely a TM from Ireland, confirmed.

Quoting press items of varying veracities here won't help. Names as Police formally identify the deceased, and details as they become fact rather than speculation. "Confirmed" should /not/ mean "I read it in an online article".

There are some good questions above regarding restraints, engine modifications, fuel etc. Those answers won't be available today.


grace05

Jan 3, 2006, 12:20 AM
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Confirmed dead:
A 22-year-old man from Rochdale
A 34-year-old man from Ireland
A 41-year-old man from England
A 49-year-old woman from England
A 40-year-old woman from Nerang


bobjoy9  (F 480)

Jan 3, 2006, 3:19 AM
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http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/...370%255E1702,00.html


Condolences to all who knew him. :^(

ltdiver
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I remember irish- "Nigel" as a true gentelmen of the skydiving industry, I was asked to say a few words about him as of his nature and charactor in a newspaper by a cheif instructor he used to work for.
He had an amazing way to make his passengers feeling calm in a quirky way, Yes he had a black scence humor about him as many of as skydivers do knowing that any day could be our last.

He knew the dangers of our sport and took them on without any question.We talked about how the end will be none of our falt and we lived with that.

I just hope I can have a bit of Irishes fun out look of life and live with it and let it shine onto the people around me like he used to.

There were five other people on that plane who also had a life and each and every one of those people loved-walked-lived and touched many people in our time here on earth.
I pray for the comfort & easy of pain for the ones closest to them and hope they find peace and understanding soon.

No one knows how to prepair for something like loosing a friend-realation- lover and no matter how much we think we can take it, WRONG,, when it does happen ,,, We then realize how short life is and how insegniffigent the little things are that can overcome our lives .

Maybee this is how I am dealing with the loss of a mate / friend ?Maybee I am reminding myself how important life is and not to dwell on the small stuff? Maybee it's time to accept our fellow humans and respect ourselfs?

This morning I woke up and there were five poeple from that plane who did not... That's what we all will have to face, one day we will all end up the same as our forefathers- HISTORY.

Below is a pic of IRISH a true ambassador of our skydiving industry


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ltdiver  (D 20506)

Jan 3, 2006, 8:57 AM
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Please refrain from flaming. The investigation is still very new and will take months to conclude.


http://www.news.com.au/...7,17724163-2,00.html

Bureau under fire over crash

By Michael McKenna and Kevin Meade
04-01-2006
From: The Australian

THE nation's peak aviation safety body is under fire after revelations that the engine of the aircraft involved in Monday's skydiving accident, which killed five people, had a history of "unusual" failures.

Air safety investigators yesterday began taking apart the engine of the Cessna 206, salvaged from a dam at Willowbank, west of Brisbane, after reports of black smoke coming from the aircraft during take-off. And it emerged that one of the two survivors of the crash, Brian Scoffell, co-owner of the Brisbane Skydiving Centre that operated the aircraft, faced diciplinary action after a Brisbane teenager died during a jump in March 2000.
The aircraft was the subject of an Australian Transport Safety Bureau report in November 2004 for failure to comply with an altitude directive, but investigators did take any action against the company or the pilot.

ATSB officials said they expected to have an indication within days of the cause of the crash, which killed four skydivers and the pilot when the Cessna went into the dam after takeoff.

The engine was similar to one that failed in a Whyalla Airlines light plane that crashed in Spencer Gulf in South Australia in May 2000, killing eight people.

A former Whyalla Airlines operator, Chris Brougham, said he was appalled to hear the Cessna had an engine like the one that failed in the company's Piper Navajo Chieftain. He questioned whether the Civil Aviation Safety Authority had done enough to prevent yesterday's tragedy.

"If it's a Lycoming engine and it's subsequently shown to be a similar problem to the one that caused the Whyalla tragedy, it's absolutely amazing CASA hasn't done something to detect this problem before now and done something to fix it," Mr Brougham told ABC radio.

ATSB spokesman Alan Stray said it was too early to say whether the replacement of the Cessna's original engine with the more powerful Lycoming TIO-540 turbocharged engine contributed to the crash.

Monday's crash will renew scrutiny of the skydiving industry, which under civil aviation laws is subject to fewer aircraft maintenance and safety audits than other aviation operators.

Angela Garvey, joint owner of the Brisbane Skydiving Centre, declined to comment, saying she was distraught. "We are all in a state of shock, it has been absolutely traumatic," she said.

Ms Garvey said that Mr Scoffell, 57, who suffered burns and a broken elbow in the crash, was in hospital but "doing fine".

Police said the other survivor, Amanda Best, 27, remained in Brisbane's Princess Alexandra Hospital in a serious but stable condition. She was found dazed and bleeding in a paddock close to the dam, and is understood to have suffered spinal injuries.

Among the five people killed in the crash was Nigel O'Gorman, 34, an Irishman who had worked as a parachuting instructor with the Brisbane Skydiving Centre for about five years and had performed thousands of jumps.

Pilot Anthony Winter, 22, from Rochedale, west of Brisbane, and another parachuting instructor, a 41-year-old Englishman, were also killed.

The crash also claimed the lives of a 49-year-old Englishwoman and a 40-year-old woman from Nerang on the Gold Coast, who is believed to have been given the skydive as a birthday present.


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