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sunnydee123  (D 27113)

Apr 23, 2003, 10:36 AM
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Well have made 60 jumps, 5 of which were sit fly attempts and just not getting it. Have a wonderfully patient friend trying to help a newbie but my impatience had to hop on here and see if anyone has any advise/suggestions for a good exit to get this thing started. Tried something he called the train - was not working for me...then we tried a face to face, hooked knee kinda exit which was better but the minute he would let me go I would tumble all over. Guessing my back is the best place to start. Got half day for Secretary's Day and guess where I am heading and would love to hop up there and at least feel a sit....Help gang - impatient yet anxious new skydiver.


brits17  (D 24752)

Apr 23, 2003, 11:04 AM
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lol, that sucks! i should get 1/2 a day for secretaries day too, everyone forgot about me Unsure oh well. anyway, sitflying, my best advice would be to try the train a few more times to get the feel of being upright. when doing solos, lying on your back can get you spinny, so if you cork try going to your belly and bringing your feet underneath you. you may find also that you do a lot of "ass-flying" meaning you're sitting in a lounge chair position. when this happens, focus on bringing your legs underneath you once again and staying upright as long as possible. once you're able to hold stable, then have local freeflyers show you how to move forward, back, etc.

hope this helps just a little. have fun out there Smile


trigger  (D 101390)

Apr 23, 2003, 12:39 PM
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5 of which were sit fly attempts and just not getting it.
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It took me 40jumps to get a good/ok DTT[down the tube]flying position in sit. advise/suggestions
Try learning to fly 'a ball'[recovery position in freefly]first and good coaching is a definate plus.


ccowden

Apr 23, 2003, 1:45 PM
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Fly with your feet! Try not to rely totally on your arms to hold you in a sit. Push your feet down against the wind and get your knees and feet slightly more than shoulder width apart. I see many people learning to sit and their feet are too close together and they are leaning back relying on their arms to hold them up. Really concentrate on your feet and feel them pressing down. It will take a few jumps but once you get it, you will progress quickly!


Samurai136  (D 26609)

Apr 23, 2003, 6:15 PM
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When I was learning basic sit flying I was told to curl in a ball to 'keep my speed up'. It never really worked for me. I fall kinda slow anyway.

What did work was exiting and going into a stand. For me there were fewer variables to think about. Feet are side by side, legs are at full extension, standing tall, and arms out (like a crucifix). Then going into a basic stable sit only involves bending your knees and sliding your feet apart a short distance. The stable sitting position, for the torso from the waist up, is essentially the same as the stand position. Since I fall slower, I'm usually adjusting my fall rate between a sit and stand.

If you can get a copy of Brian Germain's Vertical Journey there are some excellent photos and his instruction is concise and clear.Smile

Ken


Costyn  (D 92506)

Apr 24, 2003, 12:44 AM
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If you're in your sit and find yourself going unstable, try raising your arms a little higher (so they're no longer level with your shoulders). That worked for me to get me stable. After a while I was able to lower my arms to where they are level with my shoulders.

I'm not sure why it worked, maybe the badminton-birdie idea with your arms higher.

Good luck!

Costyn.


azdirttorpedo  (D 27207)

Apr 25, 2003, 11:42 PM
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I agree!! Fly those feet! Don't wear lots of drag and concentrate on keeping your feet pointed outward rather than straight ahead. Using those muscles will help maintain a more positive legs posture.


Costyn  (D 92506)

Apr 26, 2003, 4:07 AM
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Oh yeah, thats a great suggestion. That really helped me too, wearing shorts and a sweater. I was always bouncing around a little wearing my freefly suit, but the shorts/sweater combination was absolutely rock solid.

Cheers!

Costyn.


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

Apr 28, 2003, 8:17 AM
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Thanks for the tips everyone....I made 5 more sit jumps this weekend and was feeling really good about it after figuring out what to wear that worked. Shorts and a bigger top...right on! Granted I was a bit "sitting in the lazyboy" but at least I am getting the feel. 8 sit attempts under my belt now and already feeling it - wait until next weekend. I'm gonna hit it...over and over and over. Can't wait to fly with some of the "cool kids" and get some still shots so I can Upgrade my AFF stills...hee hee


fundgh  (C 34140)

Apr 29, 2003, 9:37 AM
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I am freshly learning to sit as well...
I found that totally relaxing the arms and letting them fly themselves helped a ton. The other thing that helped to lock my sit in was letting my legs drop a bit more. When they were at right angles or a bit lower, I had trouble with corkin' out, but once I pushed down with the feet a little, I was in total control of my column of air. Good luck.


airann  (A 165593)

Apr 29, 2003, 11:42 AM
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My opinion-

A horny gorilla or a train arent going to work too good till you figure out how your body flys. In a train you will peel out and hit someone. In a horny gorilla you wont know how to positon your arms. But you can try it.

You are in your infant stages in freeflying. Baby steps. Dont get impatient or anxious. You will have a harder time getting going if you are hard on yourself. I was & still am. Try not to be. Wink

Back is kinda easiest, you will wind up there anyway after you flip on your face. Yet you can lose alt awareness. In addition, you are not in a familiar stable position, for example, you already know how to belly fly and get out of trouble, I hope. You can roll over and try again from your belly. Get a friend to film you or get a coach and see what is going on up there. A picture is worth a buncha words and you will see what fact is versus your recall.

Get an audible alt. but dont rely on it.

WELCOME to the sweetest 14.9 percent of all skydivers. WOMEN


fundgh  (C 34140)

Apr 29, 2003, 3:01 PM
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To All...
I don't feel it is safe for me to go out and FF with others until I have my sit controllable and stable. I have really only gone out to sit when it is a coach or somebody who is a badass free flyer. If you cork out because you are not stable yet, relative speeds can be vaery dangerous. Am I correct in this thinking. I want to be safe, but I don't want to be a prude.AngelicPirate


Yoshi  (D 26770)

Apr 29, 2003, 3:14 PM
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I would stick to coaches or someone who is prificient in a sit while you are learning...nothing over a 2 way until you can recover without going belly (or slowing your speed rapidly) so yeah guess you are correct in your thinking.. I jump with some people who are not quite proficient in a sit, but I also know how to fly well enough to be out of the way if they quark...and I dont try to dock on someone who is just learning, I usually just video or do some transitions in proximity to show them my body position when I fly..
-yoshi


fundgh  (C 34140)

Apr 30, 2003, 9:00 AM
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10-4...
I have gotten to the point where I can fly fast the whole time and don't go to my belly, but I see others that are learning and they go out in three or four ways, and I don't think that the people that they are jumpinig with realize the potential for trouble. How long should one sit before going Head Down?


Yoshi  (D 26770)

Apr 30, 2003, 11:06 AM
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BE PROFICIENT ENOUGH IN A SIT TO (WHEN YOU QUARK FROM HD) YOU CAN GO RIGHT INTO THE SIT WITHOUT A PROBLEM. WHEN LEARNING HD YOU WILL PROB START OUT GOING PRETTY FAST SO THE DIFFERENCE IN SPEED BETWEEN BELLY AND HD IS GOING TO BE GREATER THAN BELLY AND SIT. i WOULDNT SAY THERE IS A MAGIC NUMBER OF JUMPS JUST EXPERIENCE.
-YOSHI


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 1, 2003, 10:36 AM
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I can't begin to tell you how amazed I still am at myself that I jump out of planes AND that I am a GIRL who jumps out of planes. Been a bit conservative most of my 34 years of life but musta went thru one of those changes cause I started doing crazy things...crazy FUN things. The smiles are worth it! Having a blast and meeting TONS of great peeps. Plan to do a bit of long weekend traveling this summer and get some other jumps logged in my book aside from Sebastian...hee hee.
Have had a great friend flying video for me as I learn and in just 10 jumps, I can see the improvement and ALSO how drastically your body position makes things change. I plan to keep it simple until I get comfortable with my own abilities....But sure would like one photo opp to hang on my wall with a "cool kid" to replace those silly harness gripped AFF pics...It's all fun....Off Friday to utilize my "coaching pal" before he heads out for 2 weeks. Frown Video is a HUGE plus in this learning process, without a doubt! Blues~


Cajun  (C License)

May 2, 2003, 10:15 AM
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In reply to:
10-4...
I have gotten to the point where I can fly fast the whole time and don't go to my belly, but I see others that are learning and they go out in three or four ways, and I don't think that the people that they are jumpinig with realize the potential for trouble. How long should one sit before going Head Down?

What I like to see, is a "b license" in sit flying. What I mean in, 360rt, 360lt, front flip, back flip in 18 seconds or less. All done from and stopping in a sit. After that, I would say you have your recovery position.

Note: I'm not a coach, and I don't fly head down well, but the above just seems like a good idea to me.


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 2, 2003, 11:58 AM
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I did my B license check dive in a sit. I threw a weedwacker in there too for good measure. Smile


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 5, 2003, 8:02 AM
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Just had to share....after 2 weekends, 16 jumps and lots of helpful "tips", I am very happy to say that "I HAVE FOUND THE SIT - I FOUND THE SIT". Not saying I am a pro, but went out solo and stable then a few jumps I picked a heading and held it nice and stable THEN with help from random brave souls willing to jump and watch a newbie - am learning to now play with turns. I was told I am doing really well for being new at it so patience is key...that and lots of jumps. Have not tried any flips and getting back to sit but imagine this weekend will bring that challenge on.....Someone said baby steps. Good advice! This is great fun....who'da thunk it would get any better then just jumping out of the plane.....


jsyslo  (A 38119)

May 5, 2003, 10:17 PM
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Congratts!!

Youll be suger glidin in no time! Really wanting to do it seems to be the best thing (and practice!), keep it up!!

Woohoooo!!


paulreasbeck  (C 33500)

May 7, 2003, 12:42 AM
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Congratulations. I know what a wonderful feeling it is to sit at last.Smile
Have fun on the other beautiful coast.


airann  (A 165593)

May 7, 2003, 1:18 PM
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so patience is key...that and lots of jumps.
SO true.

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"I HAVE FOUND THE SIT
The thing is we here in this medium can tell you all day long how I did, how they did, and how you can ... learn to sit. BUT, its for you to find, Grasshopper.

When I first was learning. My coach would sit me on a picnic table and say thats is it. He put me against a wall and said that is it. Now go and try it for a billion jumps. And for the most part it was that position. But nothing is exact. Besides he didnt have boobs and his ass was different, that kinda thing. Well, everyone is different.

I am so glad to hear you SAT, there you go. Like I said, baby steps, from here you add on to that skill. Headings are great to work on when you are flying solo. I would do mine in a square. Look at a ground item near the horizon and stay on heading, turn 90 degrees and so forth. Then 360's and stop on a dime. Then go the other way. Look up, look down. You will need all these skills later.

Get down that task of looking at your alt and not turning. I keep mine on the very side of my wrist so I dont have to turn my hand so much. (Audible Alt is a must) I have seen them on forearms. There is no law on where you put your alt.

Next proxcimity, forward and backward movement is super important. You can work solo on this but for real work you will need someone else there so you can see how you are doing. You have to have someone who can get out of the way if you cant stop as fast as you need to. (go slow) A coach hopefully or a real good flyer is ok. If you are a floatie, you can even get a faster falling RW person that is real good. Paramount concern is safety. Wink

Remember that controlled slow and small movements are key when you are starting out.

Also, when you feel like your sit is pretty well stable. Jump out in a flip and get stable again. Returning to stable is important in any situation. You can also work on flips not so much to have perfect flips but to use them as a learning tool to go from unstable to stable. And they are fun.

One more thing... try to get big in a sit. What I mean is go slower. Then also, stand a little to go faster.

From what I can tell here, you remind me alot of someone I used to know. Cool You are on your way Sky Sister!!

Laugh

(Shih Tzu in pic is named Olav ZipsTer, Zipster for short)


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 13, 2003, 1:45 PM
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Thanks again for all your tips....I love to hear something new and then run and try it out so this weekend I'll be flipping out of the plane and see how I do getting to that sit....OHHHH, I'm so excited! I also want to try - just for the heck of it - what it feels like to TRY and stand. Should I chill out a bit or try and see what it feels like? My pal is back in town for one last weekend so I'm going to jump him like crazy....ummmmm...jump him...anyway...we'll jump and have video and have tons of fun before he is off....then I will be planning my summer get-aways. I started this adventure back in February just as Sebastian was having the Freefly BigWay. I am hearing names and seeing faces that were there and I had no clue who they were...I fondly call them "the cool kids". I'll be one of them one day.......Big dreams, high hopes, and big cheese ball grins!!


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 13, 2003, 1:56 PM
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No big differnece between sit and stand. Try both. Head up flying is head up flying. Just watch your slide in a stand because you can really move around if you're not careful. Have fun, be safe.


(This post was edited by SanDiegoRW on May 13, 2003, 5:43 PM)


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 13, 2003, 2:00 PM
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Good to know....My pal has a good handle on how much I move around when I try something new. We get a good laugh out of the video from the first few sit attempts....great fun! But also big enough to admit only brave enough to jump with one person at a time when I am learning....So have you hit 100 yet and gotten pie'd? I can't wait.....I'm such a girl sometimes.....Maybe I'll see ya this summer....hoping to take a few LOOOONG weekend trips and log jumps in places other than Sebastian - although Sebastian has been a great place to start this adventure.....


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 13, 2003, 5:39 PM
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Nah I'll be hitting 100 next weekend Shocked I'll be in Zhills for the next few weeks, that should be sweet. I was leary of jumping with mulitple people when I was first learning to sit too. Doing solos and 2 ways is the best in my opinion. Last weekend I did a 5 way with Mike Ortiz and some other talented guys from the dz. That was the shit! Yeah maybe I'll see you around sometime. Wink


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 14, 2003, 4:28 AM
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I hear lots about Zhills....is that a nice drop zone? I sometimes forget living in Florida that we have quite a few drop zones I could visit right here in my own backyard. Let me ask something else, how important is it to have an actual freefly suit compared to just flying regular clothes? I bought a damn RW suit when I started this, wore my newsuit I think 4 times and then decided to freefly so it sits in a bag....Do you know how many jumps I could make with the cash back on that one....Ho-hum...Happy jumping all........Denise


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 14, 2003, 8:57 AM
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I haven't been to Zhills since last August and that was just to do two tandems. But I remember it being an awesome DZ and the people there were real laid back and friendly. I've heard nothing but good about the place. Smile My Brother will be starting AFF there soon.

I started sit flying in a pair of freefly pants and a long sleeve t-shirt. Most begginers I see wear a pair of jeans and a long sleeved thick material on top. It makes learning a bit easier. But once you have a stable sit I think it helps a lot to have a good jumpsuit with an even amount of drag all over. You may even want to consider a two piece f/f suit so you can change your top depending on what type of flying you are going to do and what the weather is like. Besides, those funny looking baggy jumpsuits are what identifies us as freaks so get one! My advice, keep the RW suit. I love freeflying but I am going to buy an RW suit when I have the cash. You just never know when you will need it.

Maybe you can drop by Zhills this weekend or next. It's around 2 hours away from Sebastian. I'll be there. Have fun!


CanuckInUSA  (D 26396)

May 14, 2003, 9:13 AM
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I hear lots about Zhills....is that a nice drop zone? I sometimes forget living in Florida that we have quite a few drop zones I could visit right here in my own backyard.

Lucky girl (I mean that in a good way) ... go visit them all ... Tongue

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Let me ask something else, how important is it to have an actual freefly suit compared to just flying regular clothes? I bought a damn RW suit when I started this, wore my newsuit I think 4 times and then decided to freefly so it sits in a bag....

When I first started to freefly I wore anything from my ski pants (which didn't work that well), to an RW suit without booties (I had trouble at first, but then got the hang of it), then using tight sweats. Now I use my baggy freefly pants (I'm fairly big so the extra material helps slow me down). Any person with decent freefly skills should be able to jump with any clothing. But you know what they say, "Dress for success". If you're freeflying most of the time, wear freeflying clothing. If you need to slow down, wear baggy clothing. If you need to speed up, wear tight clothing.

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Do you know how many jumps I could make with the cash back on that one....Ho-hum...Happy jumping all........Denise

I'm with you on this one. My RW suit sits in a closet right now and was last used at Eloy over the holidays on the DZ.COM formation loads. Crazy


(This post was edited by CanuckInUSA on May 14, 2003, 9:19 AM)


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 14, 2003, 11:03 AM
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Alright ya big Canuck.....what's with the "not working" jab? Or am I once again being an over-sensitive girl.....

Thanks for the tips. Been jumping capri pants and big shirt and that works fine but I want to also look the part. I've still got being a girl on my side so fashion is not critical yet - no worries. I think I'm gonna start keeping tabs of everyone who give me little "tips" and offers to make jumps...be careful, I might track ya down. Always looking for a volunteer to jump.......Tongue


CanuckInUSA  (D 26396)

May 14, 2003, 11:10 AM
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Alright ya big Canuck.....what's with the "not working" jab? Or am I once again being an over-sensitive girl.....

It's a quote from the movie "Office Space" and lately I've really been kind of acting like the main character Peter. Wink

In reply to:
Thanks for the tips. Been jumping capri pants and big shirt and that works fine but I want to also look the part. I've still got being a girl on my side so fashion is not critical yet - no worries. I think I'm gonna start keeping tabs of everyone who give me little "tips" and offers to make jumps...be careful, I might track ya down. Always looking for a volunteer to jump.......Tongue

Take whatever we tell you here DZ.COM with a grain of salt. I'm not that much more experienced than you are. Wink But if I ever run into you at a DZ, but be happy to jump with you. It sounds like your sit is coming along just fine and right on schedule. Cool


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 14, 2003, 11:11 AM
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So Kenny...how long you gonna be around Zhills? This weekend I am HOPEFULLY utilizing my friend who started me on this freefly stuff (thank goodness) before he heads out for the summer....so not sure I could make it this weekend but we have a nice LONNNNGGGGG weekend next weekend...although traffic might be a bear. Any other travels plans this summer...thanks for all the info. See ya round, always up for new "freak" friends....


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 14, 2003, 11:14 AM
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Figures....sorry for snapping - haven't had my protein shake yet this afternoon. I broke out the sewing machine last night and am going to ATTEMPT to make my own freefly suit. YIKES! At least it will be a one of a kind. You have a name "ya big Canuck"?


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 14, 2003, 6:15 PM
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I will be in Zhills until May 28th Smile I will need someone to fly with too Tongue


Premier skymama  (D 26699)
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May 15, 2003, 4:42 AM
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I will be in Zhills until May 28th I will need someone to fly with too

Cool, look for Chopchop and I to be there on Memorial Day weekend at some point, we'll jump with you. Smile


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 15, 2003, 4:48 AM
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I was talking about making the road trip there either the 23rd or 24th....will ya jump with me too? PLEEEEEEEEASE. I'm so excited about all the new peeps I am meeting.......will be fun, fun, fun!


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May 15, 2003, 7:57 AM
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I was talking about making the road trip there either the 23rd or 24th....will ya jump with me too?

I just settled my plans with Chopchop. If you can make it there on the 25th-26th, we'll be able to jump with you. Smile


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 15, 2003, 8:04 AM
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Oh pooo...I'll see what I can do. Have plans on Sunday that put a bump in things but maybe I can drive over Sunday night and play all day Monday with my new found pals......Might make for a sleepy Tuesday at work but thinking it might be worth it. So does that work for you Kenny? Is anyone camping or living the high life of luxury in a nearby hotel? OOOoooo, my tummy is getting all excited thinking about jumping...D


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 15, 2003, 8:06 AM
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Memorial Day weekend... isn't that naked weekend? Laugh I will jump with everyone I don't care! Smile


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May 15, 2003, 8:07 AM
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Hahaa, yes, it's naked weekend, but only Chopchop gets to go on my jump! Sunnydee, it's to hot to camp, we're going to find other accomodations. Don't worry about being tired at work on Tuesday, you're a skydiver now, it's time to get used to it! Laugh


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 15, 2003, 8:10 AM
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I was just getting ready to say that....now I know why everyone is heading there......not sure I am that brave just yet.....but hey - I don't know any of you guys.....hee hee. Now I might have to REALLY think about making it there......YIKES!


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 15, 2003, 8:19 AM
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My brother is letting me use his apt. which is 15 minutes up the road. I might be able to work something out there for you if you would like. I know how expensive hotels can get on short notice around memorial day there. But no promises yet. Wink Let me know.


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 15, 2003, 8:24 AM
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whose that offer goiing out to?

ooooohhhh, my mom always told me not to talk to strangers - not sure if that included not having sleep overs with strangers....hee hee...but if you can't trust your skydiving pals - who can ya trust?! That would be great actually, if it works out, cause I was already thinking I might just have to sweat my butt off to jump lots. Price ya pay - I can suck it up but hey - nice offer...keep me posted. Thanks!


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 15, 2003, 8:29 AM
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The offer is to you. Skymama gets no love since I can't go on her naked jump. Tongue haha Just playin. So yeah, I can't promise you will have your own king size bed with a Jacuzzi and room service but it does have A/C and a short white man to make fun of. UnimpressedSly


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 15, 2003, 8:43 AM
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Yeah well if skymama jumps naked she has to land naked......FREE SHOW.....kidding!

NO ROOM SERVICE? DAMN! Well can I at least request a room with a place to pee that doesn't require squatting behind bushes?Wink I'll bring my tent and sleeping bag anyway, I'm good with an AC'd floor....

Welp - you know where to find me if it works out and I don't make fun of any short people...I'm one of them. Thanks again for the offer....Talk to ya soon....


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 15, 2003, 8:46 AM
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Yeah we have a port-a-poddy in one of the corners of the living room you can use and plenty of carpet. I'll PM you a phone number just in case something comes up. Wink

Can't wait to see all of you there!


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May 15, 2003, 8:52 AM
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Skymama gets no love since I can't go on her naked jump.

Oh, that's a fine way to treat your greenie...hmmm now where's that "ban" button? Tongue


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 15, 2003, 8:56 AM
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You know I love you Andrea. Okay I'm off to the airport! Wish me luck with the assweed security guys! Later all, see you soon.


ChileRelleno  (D 24868)

May 22, 2003, 4:01 PM
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Heres some of the best sitflying educational material I've found...http://www.zct.co.uk/...g00/headupflying.htm check out this article and the other two (2) articles that go with it. Very informative for your developing your freefly skills. http://www.zct.co.uk/...00/headupflying2.htm
http://www.zct.co.uk/...es/dec00/headup3.htm


(This post was edited by ChileRelleno on May 22, 2003, 4:03 PM)


johntheking

May 22, 2003, 6:40 PM
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Thanks for those articles, they really are great! They answered a whole lot of my questions, and even gave me ideas I didn't have before. I am really interested in getting better at my sit/standing fly positions. I dabbled in sitting and standing to the point where I could get into it and remain stable fairly quickly, but turning and maneuvering were the things I was blank on. Now all I need to do is get back in the air! I may see some of you this weekend, at Z-Hills (If that was your plan to be there). My birthday present to myself is getting back in the sport.
John


Skylark

May 23, 2003, 2:21 PM
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Yes, those articles are good...except for one tiny 'whuffo' thing I spotted Tongue

"...make sure there is no-one above you before you go belly-to-earth or you run the risk of 'corking' (see later) and will go up and collide at a very high speed with anyone above you."

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh


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Zenister  (A 42)

May 23, 2003, 2:49 PM
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if your speaking relative the the group fall rate that is correct, you will "go up" from their perspective, you just wont gain any altitude.


Skylark

May 23, 2003, 2:55 PM
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Yes, but that's stating the obvious...no-one ever gains altitude in freefall, and 'whuffos' are often heard to remark whether it hurts when one is 'goes-up' when watching videos of canopy deployments.


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 23, 2003, 2:57 PM
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"Go high" would have been the choice words I think... but I am not one to nit pick. You get the Authors point I'm sure. Wink


CanuckInUSA  (D 26396)

May 23, 2003, 3:01 PM
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Get pied yet?


SanDiegoRW  (B 26602)

May 23, 2003, 3:06 PM
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Hmmm no shhhh!


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 28, 2003, 10:18 AM
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Well since I started this post, I now have 30 more jumps and spent last weekend in Z-Hills jumping with all sorts of great people. My sit is coming along....practice makes perfect. Check me out...
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Yoshi  (D 26770)

May 28, 2003, 11:00 AM
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LOOKIN PRETTY SOLID!
good job...keep it up and when you come to "THE" boogie in richmond we can have some fun!
-yoshi


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 28, 2003, 12:08 PM
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Thanks Yoshi......might even start just trying to stand a bit so if my ass is to slow I can catch back up. So much I want to learn....and patience is not one of my better qualities. Laugh Hope I have a pic with my headdown pal to share soon. Had a great jump with an old pal just back from Iraq this weekend at Z-Hills....had lots actually but he had to work so hard to keep with me. RRRrrrr. Next time I jump with him I want to be able to keep up and surprise him.....My leg is bouncing getting all excited thinking about it.....Later gator ~ D


Yoshi  (D 26770)

May 28, 2003, 12:20 PM
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great! Although most of my 370 jumps are freefly I still have very much to lean. I have been practicing head down docking and trasitions lately. I am now able to do some solid dock (I have gotten 9 points head down! in one dive) but I still need to work on my flying so I can be a little more smooth with my movements and dock a little lighter. (sometimes I fight the air rather than flying it so I seem to stiffen up a bit which makes the movements a little more irratic (sp?) than they could be..
keep up the good work!
-yoshi


freeflir29  (D 10000000)

May 28, 2003, 12:33 PM
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sometimes I fight the air rather than flying it so I seem to stiffen up a bit which makes the movements a little more irratic (sp?) than they could be.


I yell "RELAX STUPID" in my head a lot. It usually helps. Laugh Also making a concious decision to take a nice deep slow breath also does wonders.


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

May 28, 2003, 12:38 PM
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I always take a nice long deep breath before I get up to stand at the door....and it helps but someone also told me I need to relaz. Check out my robot hands in the pic a few threads back......I've always flown like that - and I am just now trying to pay SPECIAL attention to that because tense hands lead to tnese shoulders, lead to not just right body position.....I'll get it and watch out when I do. You'll hear me hooting and hollering from there!


sunnydee123  (D 27113)

Jul 25, 2003, 3:33 PM
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It is so funny to look back at this from not too long ago and look at where I am now....I was just in Cross Keys and made a handful of jumps with Team Bad Fish and although I know I still have work to do (don't we all), I was quite proud that for the most part I could hold my own, even with the "big boys"......Check me out on the Bad Fish website for all pics. GOOD STUFF!

What's a "bad fish" you ask? Let me just tell you...........In my book - they are some bad ass mo funky's Wink

http://www.badfishfreefly.com/gallery/flyingwithfriends_gallery_index.htm


georgechurchill  (D License)

Jul 26, 2003, 3:54 AM
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Hi Denise, good to see your still jumping.
We'll have to do some jumps when I get back to Sebastian

Gorgous George


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sunnydee123  (D 27113)

Jul 27, 2003, 3:03 PM
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HEY YOU...........I would love to since we never got to when you were here and I seem to recall you promised me one. I am looking forward to winter believe it or not - Sebastian has been rather "quiet" these days....but I got spoiled when I started back in February.

I've been traveling lots, jumping lots and having a blast. Hope all is well....so do we have any news on a "little one" yet? Do you ever talk to Bjorn? Do you remember Greg from Kentucky? Maybe we should PM....Until then - Take care and keep in touch!

Denise



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