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Stuntman1  (D License)

Feb 26, 2013, 7:36 AM
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I am looking for some advice and recommendations on WHAT TO WEAR SKYDIVING IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!
What you northern people wear under those jumpsuits, on your hands, feet and necks..... . =)
Thanks for the help everyone.....


Eric
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piisfish

Feb 26, 2013, 7:43 AM
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my principle for jumping, unless doing a naked jump, is to wear a little layer more in the air than on the ground


Amazon  (D License)

Feb 26, 2013, 7:54 AM
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I am looking for some advice and recommendations on WHAT TO WEAR SKYDIVING IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!
What you northern people wear under those jumpsuits, on your hands, feet and necks..... . =)
Thanks for the help everyone.....


Eric
Have FUN, BE SAFE, LIVE LEGENDARY

There is nothing better for a first layer to keep you warm than these..

http://www.rei.com/...query=silk+underwear


airtwardo  (D License)

Feb 26, 2013, 7:54 AM
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I am looking for some advice and recommendations on WHAT TO WEAR SKYDIVING IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!

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You'll no doubt find a parachute to be useful.


mahonie10  (B License)

Feb 26, 2013, 8:10 AM
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I like the Under Armor cold gear, a bit expensive but well worth it. You can also pick up some latex gloves to use as liners with some wind proof gloves. As long as they are not too bulky to use your handles. You can get a neck gaiter and some thick socks, and should be ready. I also like the full face helmet too.


BillyVance  (D 18895)

Feb 26, 2013, 8:18 AM
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Just understand that a snow-covered landscape plays havoc on your depth perception. Tongue


piisfish

Feb 26, 2013, 8:35 AM
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Just understand that a snow-covered landscape plays havoc on your depth perception. Tongue
plus the snow attenuates all the sounds so you won't hear anything Blush


Napalm_C  (C 107470)

Feb 26, 2013, 8:36 AM
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Another vote for Under Armour coldgear...I am extremely sensitive to the cold - when I'm wearing UA, I don't even realize it's chilly...others are shivering and I'm happy as a bunny.


topdocker  (D 12018)

Feb 26, 2013, 8:41 AM
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Another vote for Under Armor cold gear. I used them on the 18K jumps for the CF world record, and they worked great. Still able to move, breath, etc, but not cold.

Gloves are always a bit tricky in cold weather. You have to be able to feel what you are doing, but if they are too thin, you can't feel your hands anyway. With any clothing, check your ability to reach handles, feel what you are doing, and handles don't disappear into pockets or pouches.

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Mikeal  (A 66259)

Feb 26, 2013, 8:56 AM
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Lately I have just been wearing a non hooded sweatshirt and gym shorts under my jumpsuit and winter gloves that have grip. I haven't worn anything on my face, but when I open the door too soon for spotting makes me want to. I've found that you are not outside for long so it really isn't bad!


Snowwhite

Feb 26, 2013, 9:25 AM
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Contact the jumpers at Skydive Superior. They jump in snow about 11.5 months a year!


jackwallace  (Student)

Feb 26, 2013, 9:31 AM
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You want to keep your arms warm. That sends warm blood to your fingers. Practice, pulling and cut aways with whatever you are wearing. You can have zero feeling in your fingers and limited movement of your head to see what you are doing. Fogged up face shield or goggles can turn it into a night jump.


Scrumpot  (D License)

Feb 26, 2013, 9:41 AM
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I also like the full face helmet too.

Be prepared for some Full-Face helmets to fog (or even ice) up potentially - in certain conditions. Just something to be aware of, and prepared for, in case it has not also been thought about or otherwise considered too, is all. Being suddenly in FF "surprised" by this occurring, is no fun, and has caused problems (and at least one serious incident that I am aware of) to some in the past.


skyjumpenfool  (Student)

Feb 26, 2013, 9:51 AM
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Balaclava! They work great.

Another good suggestion is a good Turtleneck Shirt. Not a sweater, but a medium thickness shirt. I dress in layers... T-shirt, long sleeve T-shirt, Turtleneck, then Jumpsuit.

Gloves tend to be the hardest to pin down. I use a pair of motorcycle gloves that just happen to work really well. A friend just discovered a pair of waterproof gloves designed for Ice Fishing and he swears by them.

Keep in mind, I jump in Minnesota/Northern Wisconsin. We've forgotten what cold is. Cool


dthames  (B 37674)

Feb 26, 2013, 10:26 AM
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You don't ever want to sweat in the cold but if you can keep your body a little on the too warm side, the blood flow will be better out to your hands and feet than if you were chilled. This keeps your hands warm, which helps with touchy feely things.

Something like this works wonders too, as much of your heat loss is out your head. It helps too if you have an open face helmet.

http://www.cabelas.com/..._L1LUCFQdU4Aodg3IA2g


airtwardo  (D License)

Feb 26, 2013, 10:41 AM
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Gloves tend to be the hardest to pin down. I use a pair of motorcycle gloves that just happen to work really well. A friend just discovered a pair of waterproof gloves designed for Ice Fishing and he swears by them.

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Some people like to use a pair of those tight rubber 'doctor' gloves under their regular skydiving gloves.

If ya don't regularly WEAR gloves skydiving...you'll learn one of these days! Tongue

MY hands are exceptionally sensitive to the 'very cold'...I frostbite/froze them really bad when I was a kid, almost lost some fingers over it.

In winter, on mild days I replace the usual thin/tight 'batters gloves' with heavier mechanics gloves...colder days I use a pair of REI winter Kayaking gloves - they're sturdy, flexible & waterproof.

If it's below freezing, I jump with a big pair of snow-mobile gloves, I practice not only working the operating levers with them on...but if need, a hard shake & snap of the wrist sends them flying off in case of a critical situation.

One thing to remember is with the wind-chill you can do some real damage to exposed skin, a full face or baklava is the smart thing to do.

Ditch the sunglasses and go with a high-quality good fitting pair of goggles.

30 years ago on a New Years Day jump in Illinois, I was using a pair of the then standard Kroops, the thin plastic became instantly brittle, the wind broke/shattered them & my contacts actually froze to my eyeballs! Pirate

Trust me - DON'T do THAT! Angelic


Abedy  (D 10153)

Feb 26, 2013, 10:55 AM
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Thermosuit made of 1mm neoprene, only briefs and a vest under, and your jumpsuit over. Keeps you warm even at -5C on the ground... if you have a hangar to pack Wink
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airtwardo  (D License)

Feb 26, 2013, 11:14 AM
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Thermosuit made of 1mm neoprene, only briefs and a vest under, and your jumpsuit over. Keeps you warm even at -5C on the ground... if you have a hangar to pack Wink

Pic looks like a human stick of roll-on deodorant! Tongue


Premier skydiverek  (C 41769)

Feb 26, 2013, 11:32 AM
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As for gloves:

Rubber doctor gloves OVER your summer skydiving gloves (your palms will sweat the other way around).

Neoprane diver's gloves (great tightness and grip!).

Winter horseback riding glowes.


None of those diminish 'feel' greatly.


(This post was edited by skydiverek on Feb 26, 2013, 12:10 PM)


wmw999  (D 6296)

Feb 26, 2013, 12:06 PM
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If your hands are smaller, thick gloves are really, really bad -- it's much harder to bend short fingers in thick gloves than longer ones.

When it's cold enough that regular gloves aren't enough, I actually put the surgeon's gloves on over my gloves, rather than under. That way I don't end up sweating inside them as much (which means my hands stay warmer), and the air inside them is a better insulator. They tear faster, but it's worth it to me.

Also, some scuba gloves have thin neoprene tops -- if you get good-fitting ones they can work well, too.

None of these are great for taking tight grips on a large formation, but, well, it's the middle of winter if you're using them.

Wendy P.


swisschris62

Feb 26, 2013, 12:57 PM
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Having spent quite a bit of my lifetime in crazy cold climate and not being all that crazy about the cold (although relative) when it is ridiculous and I have to be in it I wear mechanic gloves which aren't warm by themselves but I use hand Warner's. they sell them in pairs and I lay one against palm of my hand and slide the glove over it. Doesn't effect my mobility or feeling. ..it's not anything like hiding a go pro in your glove


chuteless  (D 41)

Feb 26, 2013, 2:32 PM
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Its a matter of using some common sense.....you know, like your mother gave you when you were in grade school.

Its cold in winter snows....didnt you know that??

I recall landing in the middle of a field, and there was my tracks coming out, and no way of knowing how they ended up in a snowy field...no tyracks going in.

Dress warm, get some good gloves ( like a second skin) and stay warm. If you can't hack it, stay home and watch TV


skyjumpenfool  (Student)

Feb 26, 2013, 6:06 PM
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Landing in snow can be trickey! Go out in the landing area and run around a bit to get use to it. Smile


Boomer10  (B 37365)

Feb 27, 2013, 7:53 AM
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Like most here, I am a fan of UA Cold Gear. However, I have been using Columbia's Omni Heat thermal leggings/shirts this season with great results. The price is about the same as UA Cold Gear as well.


Amazon  (D License)

Feb 27, 2013, 8:06 AM
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Landing in snow can be trickey! Go out in the landing area and run around a bit to get use to it. Smile

And while you are there.. drop some fallen leaves or sprigs of evergreens on top of the snow in the landing area to help with your depth perception.


airtwardo  (D License)

Feb 27, 2013, 8:14 AM
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Landing in snow can be trickey! Go out in the landing area and run around a bit to get use to it. Smile

And while you are there.. drop some fallen leaves or sprigs of evergreens on top of the snow in the landing area to help with your depth perception.

And an inflatable cast, a cell phone & a 12 pack! Wink


tanelvi  (D 115)

Feb 27, 2013, 8:25 AM
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We have done plenty of jumps during wintertime (low as minus 20 celsius) in Estonia.

Depends: If plane has a closed door and heating inside, you don't need much clothes. IMO most important is to wear warm gloves (leather, not woolen) and a buff around your neck. Some preferred woolen face mask, but for me it was OK without it.

But sitting in a plane without door is freaking cold. Wear warm ski-underwear + additional layer(s) of clothes under your jumpsuit and protect your fingers getting wind-chilled.

Some examples, how to suit up for winter-skydiving (old video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StLulLaFlq4


(This post was edited by tanelvi on Feb 27, 2013, 8:28 AM)


wetrock

Feb 28, 2013, 1:18 AM
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Landing in snow can be trickey! Go out in the landing area and run around a bit to get use to it.

And while you are there.. drop some fallen leaves or sprigs of evergreens on top of the snow in the landing area to help with your depth perception.

And an inflatable cast, a cell phone & a 12 pack!

it is late in the season so i would also check the condition of the snow in and off the landing area. If the snow has a crust to it from the freeze and thaw cycle one may want to adjust the inflatable cast to beer ratio accordingly.


Abedy  (D 10153)

Feb 28, 2013, 11:06 AM
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Thermosuit made of 1mm neoprene, only briefs and a vest under, and your jumpsuit over. Keeps you warm even at -5C on the ground... if you have a hangar to pack Wink

Pic looks like a human stick of roll-on deodorant! Tongue

As we say in Germany: Scheie aussehen, gut fliegen. TongueTongue
(Look like shit, fly well. - Loses much when translated.)


Abedy  (D 10153)

Feb 28, 2013, 11:10 AM
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Or you might ask for cross-country skier's "undergloves". They are usually made of a silk-like fabric, are really thin and keep your hands really warm. Even when you go XC skiing at -15C for 3 hours! Ask for ODLO, they're the best, best, best!


EOCS  (C License)

Mar 1, 2013, 3:34 AM
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Ive been jumping a few times this winter in minus -18c and the best advice i can give is to think about what plane you are jumping out of, for example our winter jumps have been out of a doorless Cessna :D and thats freezing so i go with 2 layers of pants and shirts and snowboarding pants/jacket. I use my normal gloves and just keep hands protected on the way up. Hands should work fine until pull time and i dont notice that they are cold until after landing. So yea, i think its more about what plane you are in really haha. if its closed and not too much wind inside you might be able to get away with less and just shiver some on the way down.

no matter what you have on make sure that you can grab all your handles! bulky clothes put them in a different place then you're used to.

my 2 cents

EDIT* landing in the snow can be kinda weird as its not as easy to reference your distance from the ground, even some footprints or a old shirt near your landing area should help if there is nothing else.


(This post was edited by EOCS on Mar 1, 2013, 3:36 AM)


theonlyski  (D License)

Mar 1, 2013, 7:15 AM
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I am looking for some advice and recommendations on WHAT TO WEAR SKYDIVING IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!

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You'll no doubt find a parachute to be useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhwhkwE1nws

Parachutes are SO 2012


pottesur  (C License)

Mar 1, 2013, 2:41 PM
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I am looking for some advice and recommendations on WHAT TO WEAR SKYDIVING IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!
What you northern people wear under those jumpsuits, on your hands, feet and necks..... . =)
Thanks for the help everyone.....


Eric
Have FUN, BE SAFE, LIVE LEGENDARY

I wear wool, pants, a fleece and my jumpsuit. Warm socks. Double set of gloves (I don't have any good winter gloves). I usually put my gloves inside my jumpsuit and warm my hands in my armpits if it's really cold in the plane. Then I won't have time to get cold hands when I'm jumping. Cold hands are the absolute WORST. I don't mind my feet freezing or anything else, but the hands. Bahhh. Once I jumped with summer gloves, it was about -12 C on the ground, I thought my hands were going to fall off. I actually felt sick to my stomach for a little while. And this was only a jump from 4k.

Early spring it's about -30--35 degrees Celsius at 15k. I do the same thing then. Bloody cold though!!


(This post was edited by pottesur on Mar 1, 2013, 2:42 PM)


BrianSGermain  (D 11154)

Mar 1, 2013, 4:10 PM
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I am looking for some advice and recommendations on WHAT TO WEAR SKYDIVING IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!
What you northern people wear under those jumpsuits, on your hands, feet and necks..... . =)
Thanks for the help everyone.....


Eric
Have FUN, BE SAFE, LIVE LEGENDARY

An old trick we have been using for a long time is to wear surgical gloves under cross country ski gloves. The secret to staying warm is LAYERS!

Bri

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